2017-18 NCAA Football Thread

[Ronnie-]

I think it will come down to Bama and Buckeyes (provided the Bucks win) ... Bucks have the better resume.
If they get in, thats why.

How?

They both have one loss to a top team.

Yet Ohio State got blown out by a three loss Iowa (no offense to Iowa).

Other than that, the schedules arent that dissimilar.

To me it comes down to one loss to two. With a win over Wisconsin OSU has an argument.

Although on resume alone I think bama does as well. That Iowa loss is a big negative.

That said I don't think bama is playing good enough that if it were decided right now that they should be in. And I'm not sure who should be.

At playoff time however much of what's made us beatable will be resolved. Our defense should be healthy.

 

[Jimbo]

How?

They both have one loss to a top team.

Yet Ohio State got blown out by a three loss Iowa (no offense to Iowa).

Other than that, the schedules arent that dissimilar.

To me it comes down to one loss to two. With a win over Wisconsin OSU has an argument.

Although on resume alone I think bama does as well. That Iowa loss is a big negative.

That said I don't think bama is playing good enough that if it were decided right now that they should be in. And I'm not sure who should be.

At playoff time however much of what's made us beatable will be resolved. Our defense should be healthy.

Remember, I said If they beat Wisconsin.

The Buckeyes will have beaten 2 Top Ten teams in Penn State and Wisconsin as well as well as a ranked Michigan State team.

Bama has beat a 3 loss LSU team and a 4 loss Miss St team, thats it.

 

[Ronnie-]

Remember, I said If they beat Wisconsin.

The Buckeyes will have beaten 2 Top Ten teams in Penn State and Wisconsin as well as well as a ranked Michigan State team.

Bama has beat a 3 loss LSU team and a 4 loss Miss St team, thats it.

Bama beat a number 14 and a number 18 , OSU would have beaten a number 10 and 16, and Wisconsin if they win.

The Wisconsin would be the big win.

But the extra loss balances that out.

So similar at the least.


Edit:. These are last week's rankings. State will obviously drop.

 

[camo]

Does it make sense a team ranked #1 the entire season loses 1 road game is out? Makes none for me but not a Alabama fan at all so glad.

 

[Jimbo]

Frost to Nebraska, makes sense, don't know if it will change the Cornhuskers fortunes or not.

Mullen to Florida, make a lot of sense, at least to me, this is probably a better choice than they have had recently.

Jimbo to T A&M ... ok

Schiano, good move for Tennessee, although I had heard of others that also would have been good fits.

Who will Urban pluck away to be the D Co for the Buckeyes next year is yet to be seen, so more moves will be coming.
I think, all the others were HCs this year, so all those spots will have to be replaced, I look for Urban to find his guy quickly, maybe before the end of the year, but probably shortly after the new year.

Schiano has been taken out of the UT consideration after fan reaction.
UT is missing out on a very good football coach.

 

[gadgtfreek]

UT fans causing the drama = idiots. They totally screwed that up, making a not so glamorous job even worse in the eyes of potential coaches. Not sure what they think they are right now, but UT is not as high as they obviously think it is.

 

[Derwin0]

First, UCF is NOT getting into the playoffs .... period.

I ... as you know, am a Buckeye fan.
If the Buckeyes beat Wisconsin bad, they are in ... with Miami losing to Clemson (will knock Miami out) .
I expect Oklahoma to beat TCU ... they are in (as much as I dislike Ok.... er um, Manze, i mean Mayfield)
Auburn I think will beat Georgia ... they SHOULD get in, they are playing the best football of any team at the moment.
They would also be getting in with 2 losses, so that gets rid of that stigma.

I think it will come down to Bama and Buckeyes (provided the Bucks win) ... Bucks have the better resume.
If they get in, thats why.

Personally, I have No Idea if the Bucks will win next week .... Whiskey is overlooked and very good, they have a top O line and a stud running back and a Very good Defense.

They haven't played many good teams, so no one really has a good gauge on them.

Sad thing is, when the Big Ten went to the division play, they put Ichigan on the opposite side of the Buckeyes so they could play in the Championship game ... many expected that to be a yearly thing, then they changed thier minds as they didn't want to have them playing back to back weeks .. (why, I have no idea) however, I don't believe that scenario has or would have ever happened.

All the reasons being given for Ohio St. being more worthy than Alabama are the same reasons that Penn St. was more worthy than Ohio St last year (plus Penn St. also beat them head to head).

Sorry, but Alabama's sole loss was to the SEC champ. Ohio St. has no excuses for the the Iowa blowout. And Ohio St. is the last team that should argue a 2-loss conference champ is more worthy than a 1-loss non-conference champ.

As for Auburn and their 2 losses. One of those losses was a close loss to the soon to be #1 team, with the other loss a close one to LSwho. Plus they have knocked off the #1 team twice in a row to end the season.

Sorry, but Alabama will get the nod over Ohio St. if either Wisconsin or Chocklahoma losses. Your hope is for both to happen.

 

[Derwin0]

Does it make sense a team ranked #1 the entire season loses 1 road game is out?

The reason they're out now, is there is potentially an undefeated conference champ, 2 1-loss conference champs, with either a third 1-loss conference champ (or 2-loss conference champ that just beat them).

That's why Alabama needs 1 one those teams knocked out, as an undefeated or 1-loss conference champ trumps a 1-loss non-conference champ.

 

[Ronnie-]

The reason they're out now, is there is potentially an undefeated conference champ, 2 1-loss conference champs, with either a third 1-loss conference champ (or 2-loss conference champ that just beat them).

That's why Alabama needs 1 one those teams knocked out, as an undefeated or 1-loss conference champ trumps a 1-loss non-conference champ.

Not necessarily, the committee has shown last year that being a conf champ doesnt automatically qualify a team. If TCU wins, I think Bama is in. I think they have a good shot at getting in over the Big 10 champ if its OSU.

 

[Derwin0]

Not necessarily, the committee has shown last year that being a conf champ doesnt automatically qualify a team. If TCU wins, I think Bama is in. I think they have a good shot at getting in over the Big 10 champ if its OSU.

TCU has 2 losses. That's why I said a 1-loss conference champ trumps a 1-loss non-conference champ.

I also said earlier that the 1-loss non-conference champ will trump a 2-loss conference champ, that's why I said Alabama only needs either Choklahoma or Wisconsin to lose, and Ohio St. needs both.

 

[Derwin0]

Still blaming Kiffin.

 

[mdonnelly]

I expect OU to win the Big12, end up as #1 or #2 in the playoffs, with Clemson as the other 1 or 2. OU and Clemson will both win in the first round no matter who they play. The championship between those two is a toss-up.

 

[Jimbo]

All the reasons being given for Ohio St. being more worthy than Alabama are the same reasons that Penn St. was more worthy than Ohio St last year (plus Penn St. also beat them head to head).

Sorry, but Alabama's sole loss was to the SEC champ. Ohio St. has no excuses for the the Iowa blowout. And Ohio St. is the last team that should argue a 2-loss conference champ is more worthy than a 1-loss non-conference champ.

As for Auburn and their 2 losses. One of those losses was a close loss to the soon to be #1 team, with the other loss a close one to LSwho. Plus they have knocked off the #1 team twice in a row to end the season.

Sorry, but Alabama will get the nod over Ohio St. if either Wisconsin or Chocklahoma losses. Your hope is for both to happen.

Your probably right, Bama will probably get in ...
I am not arguing that 2 loss should get in over a 1 loss team .... I'm looking at resumes ...
Bama has won against how many ranked teams ? They are/were ranked 15 and lower ..... Bucks have beat (if the beat Whisky) , #5 Wisconsin and # 10 Penn State as well as Michigan State which is gonna be ranked 15-18 ish.

 

[Jimbo]

Not necessarily, the committee has shown last year that being a conf champ doesnt automatically qualify a team. If TCU wins, I think Bama is in. I think they have a good shot at getting in over the Big 10 champ if its OSU.

I agree.

 

[Jimbo]

I expect OU to win the Big12, end up as #1 or #2 in the playoffs, with Clemson as the other 1 or 2. OU and Clemson will both win in the first round no matter who they play. The championship between those two is a toss-up.

Not so fast .....

Oklahoma has a storied history of NOT playing well in the biggest game for them.
I do expect them to beat TCU, but not so sure on whoever they play next.

 

[Gobucks]

Looks like the CFP picture is mostly set.

Winner of Georgia-Aubarn is in.
Winner of Miami-Clempson is in.
Oklahoma is the 3rd team.
Wisconsin is the 4th team.

Alabama is in if Oklahoma or Wisconsin loses.
Ohio St. is in if both Oklahoma and Wisconsin lose.

What will be hilarious is if Oklahoma wins and Wisconsin loses, because then the Buckeye fans will be crying that non-conference champ Alabama gets in over their team not even though they win their conference, quickly forgetting what happened to a more deserving Penn St. team last year.

A huge wildcard is UCF. Will the committee get guilted into letting them in if Oklahoma and/or Wisconsin loses?

Who is crying? If Ohio State doesn't get in its their own fault. Some of us Ohio State fans are actual adults. We don't troll people or cry when we don't get our way.

I do remember a lot of people crying in 2014. They cried because Ohio State was let in so it goes both ways. This isn't the team of 2014 so I doubt they get in.

Ohio State must be doing something right if people like yourself get so annoyed with them. I love the hate.

 

[Derwin0]

Not so fast .....

Oklahoma has a storied history of NOT playing well in the biggest game for them.
I do expect them to beat TCU, but not so sure on whoever they play next.

Yeah, we don't call them Choklahoma for nothing.

As it is, I think Clempson & Oklahoma will their first game, unless they play Awbarn, then I think it'll be a tossup for Clempson and a loss for Oklahoma.

 

[Derwin0]

Who is crying? If Ohio State doesn't get in its their own fault. Some of us Ohio State fans are actual adults. We don't troll people or cry when we don't get our way.

I do remember a lot of people crying in 2014. They cried because Ohio State was let in so it goes both ways. This isn't the team of 2014 so I doubt they get in.

Ohio State must be doing something right if people like yourself get so annoyed with them. I love the hate.

Hahaha, Ohio State has a history of whining. They cried because they had to play Florida instead of a team they already beat. They cry about how they have to play in the cold (40's & 50's) while teams down South play in the warmth (90's, bleh). They cry about a supposed home field advantage in bowl games for Southern teams, even though Florida is nowhere near Phoenix., etc..

All one has to do is look through the history of this board (the one about the before mentioned Florida - Ohio St. BCS game is a great example), as well as any number of Buckeye fan boards.

Heck, I've supported Ohio St. is some years, in getting into the BCS and/or championship (just looks at the 2014 posts for example), but I'll still call them out for not deserving to be in, as well as weak excuses for why they lost some of those games. Same with any other team.

 

[Riverpilot]

Clemson, Auburn, Oklahoma, Wisconsin.

Going to be interesting. See Ohio State 8th, they have to beat Wisconsin and Clemson, Auburn, Oklahoma all have to lose as well for them to get in.

Basically I see this. Auburn/Georgia. Clemson/Miami, Oklahoma or Albama, Wisconsin or Alabama.

One thing I'd like to see sooner than later is the playoffs expanded to 8 teams, that and get rid of half of the bowl games.

 

[Jimbo]

Hahaha, Ohio State has a history of whining. They cried because they had to play Florida instead of a team they already beat. They cry about how they have to play in the cold (40's & 50's) while teams down South play in the warmth (90's, bleh). They cry about a supposed home field advantage in bowl games for Southern teams, even though Florida is nowhere near Phoenix., etc..

All one has to do is look through the history of this board (the one about the before mentioned Florida - Ohio St. BCS game is a great example), as well as any number of Buckeye fan boards.

Heck, I've supported Ohio St. is some years, in getting into the BCS and/or championship (just looks at the 2014 posts for example), but I'll still call them out for not deserving to be in, as well as weak excuses for why they lost some of those games. Same with any other team.

Interesting, your living in the past ... Buckeyes vs Gators was 11 years ago ....
2014, nobody wanted them in .... but the WON IT ALL ...

Theres really not that many Buckeyes fans on this board anymore after the way I was beat up back in the day ...
I shouldn't be here either after that.
But I decided to be the better person and get over the abuse.