Ceil 2 is Alive and Powerful
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As things stand, yes you will likely need 129W (Ciel 2) for the Indy HD locals when they actually become available.
Nice readings! For me, using a D500 with an I bracket will only give 5-7 pts. higher than what I have with a 1000.2. Of course like Nelson said, you guys need a more stronger signal than the rest of us.
Gotta tell ya randalla i'm very suprised myself with these reading's they should add this sat to the eastern arc,very strong sat indeed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ok , Sorry for the misunderstanding then. My apologies to the poster. I guess it must have been the heck of a day for me today, lol.
Just out of Curiosity (my tv provider is Bell TV) , Did DN adjusted the footprint just to cover USA and not Canada like Bell TV did with the recently launched Nimiq 4 that only covers now Canada and not the US?. In our case signal levels went even to 100 in most Tp's. How come is not the case with the new Ciel 2? Or are they just fine tuning and eventually will happen.
Just out of Curiosity (my tv provider is Bell TV) , Did DN adjusted the footprint just to cover USA and not Canada like Bell TV did with the recently launched Nimiq 4 that only covers now Canada and not the US?. In our case signal levels went even to 100 in most Tp's. How come is not the case with the new Ciel 2? Or are they just fine tuning and eventually will happen.
In Alaska I need around a 30 inch dish for 110 and 119. Does anyone know if that will work for 129 or will I need a larger dish.
We likely have a different scale than you. Ours was changed last year so that SS are roughly half what they used to be. Ciel 2 has both a US ConUS beam and a Canadian ConUS beam. The Canadian beam obviously isn't being used. The US ConUS beam still covers a couple hundred miles north of the border though.
http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-network-forum/150304-ciel-129w-footprints.html
Its a joke because they just launched Sputnik 3, which has no chance of getting in the way of TV satellites in the Clarke Belt.:hahaI just hope Iran keeps their satellite out of the friggin' way!
All good jokes are predicated by a truth. The truth here is that Iran told NOBODY they were going to do this.
Apology accepted.:up
i just took the foil off my 129 lnb on my dish. it looks like i am getting 59 to 62 on most TP's
More Ciel 2 Northwest Signal
Readings from Seattle metro:
w/ a Dedicated DISH 500 @9:10pm PT 2/3
TP 01 46
TP 03 45 E5 (all have been at 33-43~48 with E5, with some dropouts)
TP 08 45
TP 09 48
TP 10 48
TP 12 34
TP 16 48
TP 17 70 Ciel 2 Nationals
TP 18 55
TP 19 57
TP 20 56
TP 21 71
TP 22 56
TP 23 57
TP 24 55
TP 25 54
TP 26 55
TP 27 56
TP 28 66
TP 29 58
TP 30 53
TP 31 59
TP 32 70
Readings from Seattle metro:
w/ a Dedicated DISH 500 @9:10pm PT 2/3TP 01 46
TP 03 45 E5 (all have been at 33-43~48 with E5, with some dropouts)
TP 08 45
TP 09 48
TP 10 48
TP 12 34
TP 16 48
TP 17 70 Ciel 2 Nationals
TP 18 55
TP 19 57
TP 20 56
TP 21 71
TP 22 56
TP 23 57
TP 24 55
TP 25 54
TP 26 55
TP 27 56
TP 28 66
TP 29 58
TP 30 53
TP 31 59
TP 32 70
SS in ODESSA.TX
.9 meter dish (3 ft) Boy it takes 4-ever for some them to load readings.
01-68
02-52
03-71
04-66
05-73
06-55
07-59
08-66
09-68
10-68
11-goose egg must be a spotbeam
12-59
13-66
14-55
15-65
16-83
17-87
18-72
19-72
20-75
21-87
22-74
23-71
24-74
25-70
26-75
27-71
28-87
29-73
30-74
31-73
32-93 dang it almost burned a hole in the dish.
Sure was interesting last night watching them turn them on and off switching back and forth between E5 & Ciel 2.
.9 meter dish (3 ft) Boy it takes 4-ever for some them to load readings.
01-68
02-52
03-71
04-66
05-73
06-55
07-59
08-66
09-68
10-68
11-goose egg must be a spotbeam
12-59
13-66
14-55
15-65
16-83
17-87
18-72
19-72
20-75
21-87
22-74
23-71
24-74
25-70
26-75
27-71
28-87
29-73
30-74
31-73
32-93 dang it almost burned a hole in the dish.
Sure was interesting last night watching them turn them on and off switching back and forth between E5 & Ciel 2.
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I am is Mission Texas which is on the souther fringe of the 129 pattern. With E-5, we could never get through a 129 channel prigram without losing signal.
With CIEL-2, the signal level more than doubled but we still are getting signal loses. Do you think that E* might still be switching back and forth between the satellites?
We are RVer and a second dish for 61.5 is not an easy solution.
With CIEL-2, the signal level more than doubled but we still are getting signal loses. Do you think that E* might still be switching back and forth between the satellites?
We are RVer and a second dish for 61.5 is not an easy solution.
With 129 just check transponders 17-32. Those will not fade in and out in Southern TX any more. Eventually all national programming on 129 will be on those transponders.
I wouldn't say so - did you check skyscan here ?
But looking at the latest uplink report it appears E5 is still in use, at least on TP25 or TP27 or both.
Probably not... DishNetwork reused the same transponder ID's from E5 with Ciel 2.
Uplink report relies on transponder ID codes to figure out which sat and transponder channels go to. These have been recycled from E5 to Ciel 2 for TPs 17-32. Thus, until Digi's database is updated, they show as E5 to Ciel-2.
I think E5 might still be active, though. I'm wondering since so many TPs have been turned off, though, that they could go to a higher power mode, with 2 TWTAs per active TP, accounting for higher power on all of 129.
Just check my signal strength on 129 (1000.2 setup) and they mirror those already reported here. Most in the low to mid 60s. some in the 70s and then tp 17, 21 and 32 in the 80s! This is much better then the 40s, low 50s I was getting (sometimes in the 30s).
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