Holy CRAP I am glad I didn't fall for the Hopper!
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You would need a new node like a trio or quad node or something like if they stayed with their same outdated technology. The problem is they switch in the entire 500mhz left or right hand polarity onto the coax for each tuner. By the time you throw in moca and band guards you don't have room for a 4th tuner on the coax. There is the real reason why the hopper only has 3 tuners and the joeys have 0 tuners. Nothing to do with research or surveys. Just a limitation for throwing some quick and dirty technology out the door.
Wow I didn't realize this thread would get so heated... so from reading more of this thread... any joey can see any hopper in a dual hopper system or is it just the joeys that are linked to a specific hopper? That isn't so bad I guess. Still 6 tuners vs 8 tho
8 is what id have if I got a hr34 and another hr25. 5 tuners to record and 3 independent. I suppose a 2 hopper 2 joey system would work for me on a 4 tv setup... don't want to have to pay the $199 but adding a second hr24 would probably run me the same so whatevs... might have to rethink but still not sure if I dig it... plus going to dish would get the wife and kid diy/hub and me h2/ngwild but we lose espnnews, Smithsonian, all the MSGs, yes network and some others... then you have idiot comcast that has all of those but only 1 hd channel per premium channel and no whole home dvr here yet... I just REALLY don't like the idea of each tv not having a dedicated tuner... personal preference I guess as I can't see 6 tuners on 4 tvs being an issue.
Sigh, why can't someone just offer a la carte and a quality whole home dvr service?
Sigh, why can't someone just offer a la carte and a quality whole home dvr service?
Any Joey can see either Hopper in a two Hopper system. At this moment, the Hoppers can not see each other, and each Joey has to choose which Hopper one at a time. When the update comes, the two Hoppers will see each other, and the Joeys as I understand it will see both Hoppers at the same time.
Also, the second Hopper is only $7 a month, as is each Joey. First Hopper is free from a monthly charge. Each account will pay $10, which is a $6 DVR fee, and a $4 Whole House Fee.
Also each Joey can pause a program, without it being recorded, and if paused, it does not affect someone else watching that program.
Also, the second Hopper is only $7 a month, as is each Joey. First Hopper is free from a monthly charge. Each account will pay $10, which is a $6 DVR fee, and a $4 Whole House Fee.
Also each Joey can pause a program, without it being recorded, and if paused, it does not affect someone else watching that program.
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Sounds like you wanted to leave and basically am blaming the CSR. Obviously you have never worked in a call center before. Turnover in call centers is constant. Its not like they can teach all CSR's everything so they have limited info and are designed to do orders for add a receiver, programming changes, etc.
Retention has the ability in most cases to get you a better deal and they want you to stay a customer.
Let me tell you my story of upgrading...
I had 2 R22's and a H23. Now if you dont know the R22 is a special DVR. Its a SD only unit but if there is a HD receiver on the account then they can get HD. SO I was paying $6 a month for a HD receiver (the H23) which was hooked to an old 32" SDTV. So I called D* and spoke to 3 reps about upgrading everything to a HD DVR. Thats all I needed. I was told $199 + 2 year agreement. Um if I pay $6 a month for 2 years I come out ahead. They also gave me the screwy numbers for the HR34 (like $600)
I spoke to retention who gave me an unbelievable deal to upgrade to the HR34 so I'm still with Directv. I've been a customer for 2+ years now
You don't want A La Carte - many threads already about that so do a search, it would not do what you think as far as cost goes.
In my opinion, both Direct and Dish whole home systems are great quality. Both services routinely have much better equipment than most cable companies.
oh and by the way I DO work in a call center (not Directv though)
. I see people on Monday for training and by the weekend they are gone.
I bet that next February, the second hopper goes to $17. If Dish knew beforehand that so many folks would want 2 of them, the price would already be at 17.
To the few that questioned my logic. I'd prefer Dish's "lazy setup" for a few reasons. First, I pay less on equipment fee. Second, I am under,the assumption that I pay less for electricity. Since I onlhave to power one receiver. Finally, my wife and I don't allow tv in every room of the house. So I have three locations, living room, family room, and mine and the wife's bedroom. Kids don't need tv in their bedroom, don't need the tiny kitchen tv, etc. So again, I don't expect DirecTV subs to understand the view, because DirecTV doesn't have or use that specific technology. They don't, plain and simple, so I don't expect those who have experienced dish to see the positives behind this set up.
Even though that was before my time I have read a lot about them. They were a very innovative company and made some really good cars.
They are really $14 since you have to get a joey to get a second hopper. Essentially the joeys do not cost dish much and are essentially profit. They also charge for the second hopper upfront for the lease. Dish is not really leaving money on the table.
I can power one HR34 and 2 H25s for the same exact power the one VIP receiver hogs.
My 722 was pulling between 50-60 watts.. powered off I think it dropped 1-2 watts. The HR34 when I first tested it was around 30 watts. The H25's were 8-10 watts a piece. Very impressive.
You may have one less receiver fee, but so what. Each additional Dual Tuner receiver could cost $17 or more. I'd rather pay DirecTV's $6 receiver fee. BTW I used to have Dish Network, and my additional receiver fees cost more than my programing fees.
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