MPEG2 Western Arc shutoff

[That American Girl]

Do we have an "official" date for the 129 shutoff yet?

 

[Bobby]

Do we have an "official" date for the 129 shutoff yet?

Soon!

 

[That American Girl]

Soon!

I hate you. Lol

 

[RTCDude]

Do we have an "official" date for the 129 shutoff yet?

No official dates have even been confirmed. The closest thing is the strong rumor that the MPEG2 to MPEG4 transition was to be completed by the end of July. Whether that means a 129 shutdown yet remains to be seen.

 

[Bobby]

In all fairness, DISH has never put a firm date on any of their software or hardware changeovers. That is smart. Things happen, as the hack shows, and why leave yourself open to negative comments.

 

[Josh.M]

7/18 (ish)

 

[That American Girl]

7/18 (ish)

To be more clear, I was curious as to what some receivers, especially those for Dish Outdoors would do when they scan. Would they still search for 110, 119, and 129...or will there be a software update so they'll only look for the 2 that they need....or would they start giving "Not all satellites found" errors?

 

[Josh.M]

To be more clear, I was curious as to what some receivers, especially those for Dish Outdoors would do when they scan. Would they still search for 110, 119, and 129...or will there be a software update so they'll only look for the 2 that they need....or would they start giving "Not all satellites found" errors?

Eventually there will be software to tell them to stop looking for 129 - but in the mean time we're working on communication to agents that says something along the lines of "Tell your customer 129 no longer exists and they should have all programming on 110/119 even if their check switch doesn't return all satellites"

 

[blatimer1983]

Will the SiriusXM channels move back to 110/119 next month?


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[long_time_DNC]

That is an interesting question. My dish has 3 LNBs, looking at 110, 119 and 129. I'm guessing that as the migration has proceeded, my Hopper3/Joey3 just "know" that any given channel can exist on any of those 3 sats (or not)...and when they shut off 129 (or mostly off for us general consumer types), it'll just know...

 

[ethanlerma]

I'm guessing that as the migration has proceeded, my Hopper3/Joey3 just "know" that any given channel can exist on any of those 3 sats (or not)

Its not that the receiver will search each of the three sats aimlessly, each channel has mappings or a "guide" of its own keeping track of which specific satellite/transponder contains said channel. They go something like "For WA this channel is on 129/17, for EA its 61.5/11 and if you need the SD version its on 110/16 or 72.7/4 respectively". This is why you can use your receiver on any of the two arcs regardless of your arc at home, with some exclusions like locals of course.
If you recall the days of James Long's uplink updates and this own forums uplink reports, channels were (are?) constantly shifting here and there without much issue, especially things like RSN's would sometimes shift from one satellite to another almost daily. My only guess as to why that was would be that it was something to do with piracy.

and when they shut off 129 (or mostly off for us general consumer types), it'll just know

Pretty sure it'll be the same as when 77 was discontinued. There were some reports here about people not being able to complete installations due to the receiver's installation wizard looking for 77 during setup, but nothing major happened to receivers already setup, just a red cross and a Conn. error where 77 used to be.

 

[zippyfrog]

As of this morning, it appears that there are no more national HD channels on the ConUS transponders on 129.

Channel	Type	Network	Now	Was
102	HD	Dish Studio	110, TP 07	129, TP 24
157	HD	NHL Network	119, TP 14	129, TP 18
287	HD	HSN	119, TP 12	129, TP 18
348	HD	Encore Esp	110, TP 19	129, TP 18
349	HD	Dish Studio (same as 102 and 500)	110, TP 07	129, TP 24
370	HD	Circle	119, TP 20	129, TP 28
392	HD	BEIN	119, TP 17	129, TP 18
402	HD	ACC Network	119, TP 17	129, TP 28
500	HD	Dish Studio (same as 102 and 349)	110, TP 07	129, TP 24
502	HD	PPV Movies	110, TP 08	129, TP 24
511	HD	PPV Movies	110, TP 08	129, TP 24
512	HD	PPV Movies	110, TP 08	129, TP 24
513	HD	PPV Movies	110, TP 08	129, TP 24
515	HD	PPV Movies	110, TP 08	129, TP 24
860	HD	Bein Spanish	119, TP 20	129, TP 28
861	HD	BEIN (same as 392)	119, TP 17	129, TP 18

I do not subscribe to the following channels that were on 129 last time they were in free preview. These are the only HD channels that I have documented that I can't verify where they are now, but I assume they were moved today like the rest of the HD channels. If anyone subscribes to these channels and can let me know where they are now, that would be great!

294 - AMC+ (129, TP 28 last time it was in free preview)
311 - HBO West (129, TP 18 last time it was in free preview)
313 - HBO Latino (129, TP 18 last time it was in free preview)

 

[Bobby]

As of this morning, it appears that there are no more national HD channels on the ConUS transponders on 129.

294 - AMC+ (129, TP 28 last time it was in free preview)
311 - HBO West (129, TP 18 last time it was in free preview)
313 - HBO Latino (129, TP 18 last time it was in free preview)

Don't know about AMC+
311 - HBO West is on 119, transponder 12
313 - HBO Latino is on 119, transponder 14.

 

[zippyfrog]

Thanks Bobby! The only one I don't know where it is now is AMC+, channel 294.

Josh.M - can you enlighten us what satellite/transponder the HD version of 294 is on? I don't even know what package you need to subscribe to in order to get it...I have only been able to access it when it is in free preview.

 

[Josh.M]

Thanks Bobby! The only one I don't know where it is now is AMC+, channel 294.

Josh.M - can you enlighten us what satellite/transponder the HD version of 294 is on? I don't even know what package you need to subscribe to in order to get it...I have only been able to access it when it is in free preview.

Looks like AMC+ is being mapped down to 294 from the following locations: 119 transponder 18 & 61.5 transponder 3

 

[KyL416]

I don't even know what package you need to subscribe to in order to get it

On all providers that have it, AMC+ is a seperate add-on and not part of any base package. It includes a dedicated linear channel that has commercial free marathons of shows and movies from their library, but most of AMC+'s "first run" content, like advanced episodes of Walking Dead and other AMCN originals, are only available via VOD.

 

[long_time_DNC]

Its not that the receiver will search each of the three sats aimlessly, each channel has mappings or a "guide" of its own keeping track of which specific satellite/transponder contains said channel. They go something like "For WA this channel is on 129/17, for EA its 61.5/11 and if you need the SD version its on 110/16 or 72.7/4 respectively". This is why you can use your receiver on any of the two arcs regardless of your arc at home, with some exclusions like locals of course.
If you recall the days of James Long's uplink updates and this own forums uplink reports, channels were (are?) constantly shifting here and there without much issue, especially things like RSN's would sometimes shift from one satellite to another almost daily. My only guess as to why that was would be that it was something to do with piracy.


Pretty sure it'll be the same as when 77 was discontinued. There were some reports here about people not being able to complete installations due to the receiver's installation wizard looking for 77 during setup, but nothing major happened to receivers already setup, just a red cross and a Conn. error where 77 used to be.

Thanks for the explanation!

 

[blatimer1983]

Will the SiriusXM music channels move off of 129 next month or so before 129 shuts down?


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[navychop]

Will the SXM continue? Contract end date?

 

[RTCDude]

As of this morning, it appears that there are no more national HD channels on the ConUS transponders on 129.

Channel	Type	Network	Now	Was
102	HD	Dish Studio	110, TP 07	129, TP 24
157	HD	NHL Network	119, TP 14	129, TP 18
287	HD	HSN	119, TP 12	129, TP 18
348	HD	Encore Esp	110, TP 19	129, TP 18
349	HD	Dish Studio (same as 102 and 500)	110, TP 07	129, TP 24
370	HD	Circle	119, TP 20	129, TP 28
392	HD	BEIN	119, TP 17	129, TP 18
402	HD	ACC Network	119, TP 17	129, TP 28
500	HD	Dish Studio (same as 102 and 349)	110, TP 07	129, TP 24
502	HD	PPV Movies	110, TP 08	129, TP 24
511	HD	PPV Movies	110, TP 08	129, TP 24
512	HD	PPV Movies	110, TP 08	129, TP 24
513	HD	PPV Movies	110, TP 08	129, TP 24
515	HD	PPV Movies	110, TP 08	129, TP 24
860	HD	Bein Spanish	119, TP 20	129, TP 28
861	HD	BEIN (same as 392)	119, TP 17	129, TP 18

I do not subscribe to the following channels that were on 129 last time they were in free preview. These are the only HD channels that I have documented that I can't verify where they are now, but I assume they were moved today like the rest of the HD channels. If anyone subscribes to these channels and can let me know where they are now, that would be great!

294 - AMC+ (129, TP 28 last time it was in free preview)
311 - HBO West (129, TP 18 last time it was in free preview)
313 - HBO Latino (129, TP 18 last time it was in free preview)

So what is left on 129?