Shouldn't have quoted you, my bad. Just noting that the receiver is now gone. And I would suspect with it any support for functions that don't function.
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Shouldn't have quoted you, my bad. Just noting that the receiver is now gone. And I would suspect with it any support for functions that don't function.
Cool, no problem, I know that they are discontinued like so many other's. support for this stb never existed anyway, not many get support these days which is sad but one never knows and can only hope for an upgrade. You'd think if Pansat can rewrite their f/ware for the S2 Plus module then they could rewrite it for bug fixes but I guess that's asking too much
Cool, no problem, I know that they are discontinued like so many other's. support for this stb never existed anyway, not many get support these days which is sad but one never knows and can only hope for an upgrade. You'd think if Pansat can rewrite their f/ware for the S2 Plus module then they could rewrite it for bug fixes but I guess that's asking too much
It's frustrating. I'm waiting now for the 4:2:2 box that people feel is best, after all the dust has settled. Not sure where we are at with what's in the pipeline vs. the available now AZ Box.
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Pansat should take time to fix the bugs even if it is discontinued....
I have a Dreambox 7020 it's several years old and I can still contact Dream Mulitmedia and get answers to questions.
As for that RS 232 dude Pansat didn't fix the bugs they certainly aren't going to tell you to use something that might help you out. LOL! I have an older Neusat and It uses that USB stick trick as well and Certainly it works but I can honestly tell you the cable works much better. I have a Pansat 2700 and 2500 and a couple of other boxes and a couple more that use USB or CS Cards to update...Always the dang cable works better and less errors on the firmware.
You know I can use several images on my DB and I have tried updating using the network and saw errors with an image that didn't show error when using direct connection... That being said your cable would be worth trying...
Pansat should take time to fix the bugs even if it is discontinued....
I have a Dreambox 7020 it's several years old and I can still contact Dream Mulitmedia and get answers to questions.
As for that RS 232 dude Pansat didn't fix the bugs they certainly aren't going to tell you to use something that might help you out. LOL! I have an older Neusat and It uses that USB stick trick as well and Certainly it works but I can honestly tell you the cable works much better. I have a Pansat 2700 and 2500 and a couple of other boxes and a couple more that use USB or CS Cards to update...Always the dang cable works better and less errors on the firmware.
You know I can use several images on my DB and I have tried updating using the network and saw errors with an image that didn't show error when using direct connection... That being said your cable would be worth trying...
I guess if they are not supporting the product any more, that just means the next one that comes out I wont be purchasing. A shure fire way to go out of business, Not that they already are! Its obvious that pansat had one market in mind and that was the hacking market. I think the s2 board was a ploy to have the image that they were legit! Its obvious by the lack of support they dont care about their product.
My Solution to Pansat 9200HD Freezing
I have obtained a second Pansat 9200 (this time with the Pansat DVB-S2 Plus kit) on Ebay and remounted the heat-sinks in it also. I have added pics and more definitive heat sink removal info at the following site: Remount Heat Sinks 2
As the MPEG-2's decoder heats up the reaction of the receiver to the remote slows and then as soon as cooling is applied to the MPEG-2 decoder heat-sink it resumes full speed. The ARM processor appears to have a built in capability to slow itself when it gets hot to avoid its own destruction much as the newer computer cpus have.
Apparently, variations in the heat sink mounting quality and in the sample to sample variations in the heat generation capability of the ARM MPEG-2 chips, some receivers have problems and some not. The manufacture dates of the two I have are June 2008 and Sep 2008 and both originally had severe slow down and freeze problems before I remounted the heat-sinks.
A little bit of air movement is still necessary but the freezes or slow downs are now virtually non-existent.
It would be my assumption that the overheating of these decoders could present a wide range of problem symptoms beyond simply that of freezing.
I have obtained a second Pansat 9200 (this time with the Pansat DVB-S2 Plus kit) on Ebay and remounted the heat-sinks in it also. I have added pics and more definitive heat sink removal info at the following site: Remount Heat Sinks 2
As the MPEG-2's decoder heats up the reaction of the receiver to the remote slows and then as soon as cooling is applied to the MPEG-2 decoder heat-sink it resumes full speed. The ARM processor appears to have a built in capability to slow itself when it gets hot to avoid its own destruction much as the newer computer cpus have.
Apparently, variations in the heat sink mounting quality and in the sample to sample variations in the heat generation capability of the ARM MPEG-2 chips, some receivers have problems and some not. The manufacture dates of the two I have are June 2008 and Sep 2008 and both originally had severe slow down and freeze problems before I remounted the heat-sinks.
A little bit of air movement is still necessary but the freezes or slow downs are now virtually non-existent.
It would be my assumption that the overheating of these decoders could present a wide range of problem symptoms beyond simply that of freezing.
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Now that is getting to the root of the problems!
That is an awesome mod and clearly you can see the burn from the pics! I would bet that would make anyones butt cheeks pucker up though removing those heat sinks. You would think ANY electronics engineer would never agree to using a damn glue on a heat sink. That is just pee poor cheap get'er done todays world I don't care about my product practice.
Hopefully this will solve issues for a lot of people using the 9200!
That is an awesome mod and clearly you can see the burn from the pics! I would bet that would make anyones butt cheeks pucker up though removing those heat sinks. You would think ANY electronics engineer would never agree to using a damn glue on a heat sink. That is just pee poor cheap get'er done todays world I don't care about my product practice.
Hopefully this will solve issues for a lot of people using the 9200!
no excuse:
Frankly, the heatsinks were marginal to start with, and they saved the dime better ones would cost.
The crummy attachment may have been a manufacturing shortcut, though.
You'd think it would have affected the reliability of the unit for the hackers, and if those were the main market, why no fix?
I've developed complex products before, and you design it to work regardless.
Then you make yourself available to manufacturing to be certain no shortcuts are taken.
When there is negative feedback from the field, you find the cause... and fix it.
Sounds like a heck of an example of, "I don't give a damn"!
Makes me embarrassed for the entire discipline of engineering!
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Isn't it amazing that the manufacturer couldn't make this discovery and come up with a field repair?
Frankly, the heatsinks were marginal to start with, and they saved the dime better ones would cost.
The crummy attachment may have been a manufacturing shortcut, though.
You'd think it would have affected the reliability of the unit for the hackers, and if those were the main market, why no fix?
I've developed complex products before, and you design it to work regardless.
Then you make yourself available to manufacturing to be certain no shortcuts are taken.
When there is negative feedback from the field, you find the cause... and fix it.
Sounds like a heck of an example of, "I don't give a damn"!
Makes me embarrassed for the entire discipline of engineering!
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You all have valid comments that can be useful and especially the Heat Sink mod which is definately a solution. I believe that Pansat is in it only for the $$$ and their engineers have a specific timeline that they have to produce a product, everything outside of that timeline is ignored and forgotten as long as the product hits the markets regardless of bugs or malfunctions or ill-design. Support ends after the sale from experience.
Regarding Heatsinks, why not use larger heatsinks? and why not use the kind with the thermal adhesive tape that many CPU heatsinks employ?
Digikey dot com has an extensive selection of heatsinks and every electronic device/component available on the market today.
24.5mm_X_40mm_X_40mm_heatsink
They have hundreds of heatsinks to choose from. In fact at a quick glance/search I found the one I posted in the photo that measures 40mm X 40mm which appears to be the same dimensions of the 9200 and it's 24.5mm tall, this may be one to consider and it's about $10. There are many to select from and I'm sure there's available space for a much taller heatsink and maybe room left to mount a thin fan atop.
I would also like to share this web page, a heatsink guide, I haven't spent anytime searching it yet but it looks like it can offer tips and answers to questions. Heat_Sink_Guide
Regarding Heatsinks, why not use larger heatsinks? and why not use the kind with the thermal adhesive tape that many CPU heatsinks employ?
Digikey dot com has an extensive selection of heatsinks and every electronic device/component available on the market today.
24.5mm_X_40mm_X_40mm_heatsink
They have hundreds of heatsinks to choose from. In fact at a quick glance/search I found the one I posted in the photo that measures 40mm X 40mm which appears to be the same dimensions of the 9200 and it's 24.5mm tall, this may be one to consider and it's about $10. There are many to select from and I'm sure there's available space for a much taller heatsink and maybe room left to mount a thin fan atop.
I would also like to share this web page, a heatsink guide, I haven't spent anytime searching it yet but it looks like it can offer tips and answers to questions. Heat_Sink_Guide
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I think it's rumor, there's the new T-1000 model that is only a terrestrial tuner but supposedly has the adaptability for the DVB-S2 Plus tuner module that the 9200HD uses. If this is correct, then the T-1000 becomes a satellite receiver as well. There is one or two eBay sellers that claim it replaces quite a few models. Do a search and you'll see what I'm talking about, your guess is as good as mine. There's also a manual posted for the T-1000 model in the Receiver Manuals section of this forum.
Yes in around 3 months or so.
The rumor is that they are stopping sales of the 9200 due to an agreement with DISH Network. We should hear more details of that over the next few weeks.
Scott, what's DN have to do with it? There's no current hack support for this model so why would DN be concerned or involved? Do you have a link to this source of info for our reading pleasure? Thanks
fwiw, i spoke to pansat today and was informed the tc1000hd will be replacing the 9200. with the optional module, it will be able to do atsc, digital cable and dvb. I'm not saying they might also be coming out with a new model, but thats just what i told.
Good info mr3p, I'm waiting to see a review on the new TC1000, it ought to be interesting in camparison to the 9200 Hord of Disasters
I guess I got the only one of these (9200HD) that works as intended. It's still using software version 1205...yeah, yeah I know -it won't record w/ that version. Big deal. I use it to watch live sports, news, etc in HD. Never had a need to record anything off the FTA system anyway...'cept maybe a few TVU music videos, but that's SD and my DVD recorder handles that just fine. Live sports and news feeds, to me, are best watched live. Especially breaking news...
The only "glitch" it's ever had, is every once in a while, if you reset the time after a power outage, it'll display some goofy number like 223:244 or something. A quick flip of the main power switch takes care of that and it'll be months before it does it again. It's still my favorite receiver, and I've got quite a few of 'em here to compare it to!
The only "glitch" it's ever had, is every once in a while, if you reset the time after a power outage, it'll display some goofy number like 223:244 or something. A quick flip of the main power switch takes care of that and it'll be months before it does it again. It's still my favorite receiver, and I've got quite a few of 'em here to compare it to!
Eurosport84;
You are not the only one with a 9200HD that 'works'. I got one off ebay last fall, with Illuminati module. I don't record from it, as I have no desire to, just use it to feed the TV distribution system in the house. So it is on 24/7, and I have not had any problem with overheating, even with the module. I did take the module out a few months ago, as I never found it to be useful to receive anything. It runs cool for me and has been reliable. I think this one was manufactured in late 2008 and might be version 1206. The time on it doesn't seem reliable, but I don't use it for a clock or a timer, and this may be due to local power outages. Maybe we're just Lucky!
You are not the only one with a 9200HD that 'works'. I got one off ebay last fall, with Illuminati module. I don't record from it, as I have no desire to, just use it to feed the TV distribution system in the house. So it is on 24/7, and I have not had any problem with overheating, even with the module. I did take the module out a few months ago, as I never found it to be useful to receive anything. It runs cool for me and has been reliable. I think this one was manufactured in late 2008 and might be version 1206. The time on it doesn't seem reliable, but I don't use it for a clock or a timer, and this may be due to local power outages. Maybe we're just Lucky!
Yeah, that Illuminati board was strictly intended for stealing Dish Network signals. Totally useless for true FTA. I'm glad to know another 9200 owner is pleased with it!
:upI bought mine from a member here and it's been a good one...
Although my Coolsat 8000 handles the DVB-S2 chores for me, this is still a good question.
:upIf they're going to stop making the S2 boards, I'll buy one too, just to have it.
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