P* Aiming...I'm Totally Lost
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If you are on a primestar 2.5" mount, you need to move the dish east approx 1/16th (plus or minus) of an inch on the pole mount to move the dish 4 degrees from 127 to 123. Good luck!
I'd have to measure it I am terrible with distances and even worse with heights. So height would be a wild guess, anyway. I would guess 75 feet high and probably 100-125 from the dish. But that's a wild guess.
That's what I thought too...that it wouldn't be much. But I've gone an inch each way..no dice.
It might be an issue of mount stability, I don't know...it seems sturdy enough, it isnt flexing thats for danged sure...I was using the platform to determine the best place to sink a pole. I don't want to concrete a pole in before I know if I am in a good spot. The dish does have some movement in it, it isn't due to the mount, after I got it locked on 127 I tightened it up, it lost a little SQ but stayed in the 60% range.
I'll keep working with it between raindrops and thanks to all of y'all for the help and encouragement! :up
Sorry I was offline yesterday. Stogie, you're very close if you're at 127. Don't worry about skew, the four degrees won't matter that much. Also, elevation should not matter too much. Just VERY slowly move the dish east from 127. Make sure you're on a LIVE TRANSPONDER when you're looking at the quality meter, try 12114 (V) 4444... That's usually the strongest TP on G-10R.
These Ku sats are MUCH harder to hit than DirecTV or Dish birds, so very slow panning of the dish is necessary...
These Ku sats are MUCH harder to hit than DirecTV or Dish birds, so very slow panning of the dish is necessary...
Well my geometry is pretty rusty, but based on the needed elevation to see G10R from your location, if the tree is 75 feet tall, as long as you are at least 91 feet away from it, it cannot be an obstruction.
127 was in about 3/16 inch range on the mast...it took quite a bit of rotation (realively) to finally lose it altogether...I've gone a half inch to either side of 127 and no signal.
I am moving the dish 1/8 inch at a time, just about...that's how I stumbled on 127. I am using Iceberg's list of strong transponders...on G10 I am using 11800 V 26600
I'm starting to realize that maybe the P* dish wasn't the best to begin with for a novice...
symbol rate is 26660
if you think you're close, do a blind/smart scan
That's the problem. On 127 the Coolsat signal bars turn green when signal is acquired, red when not. I tried to scan when the bars were red, no go.
Yes I mis-typed the symbol rate...its in the reciever already anyway, but I printed the list just to be sure.
its supposed to rain this morning. but I am going to drag the TV/reciever out there and play with it at least until it rains....Thanks all for the ideas AGAIN!
I found the "oblong" Primestar dishes to be my favorite to set up, as it has the elevation bolt 
I had the same problem when I first got into FTA. I was getting 127, and had a hard time getting G10. So I just nudged - like 1/16 of an inch at a time, finally got the strong tp on G10 when I did a blind scan, and then I was able to watch the meter and peak from there. And when I say nudge, I mean it didn't seem like I was even moving the dish. HANG IN THERE! You WILL get it, and you will be happy!
I had the same problem when I first got into FTA. I was getting 127, and had a hard time getting G10. So I just nudged - like 1/16 of an inch at a time, finally got the strong tp on G10 when I did a blind scan, and then I was able to watch the meter and peak from there. And when I say nudge, I mean it didn't seem like I was even moving the dish. HANG IN THERE! You WILL get it, and you will be happy!regardless if the bar is red or green, do a blind scan. It will pick up the frequencies whereever you are
GOT IT!
The main problem was the mast wasn't plumb. I broke the elevation bolt loose and it started flopping around so I had to take the reflector off the mount, get a spare mount, attach the reflector back to the mount, THEN I thought to check the mast for plumb...it was 2 degrees off each way...so I shimmed and wedged the platform until it was dead on 90 degrees on the angle finder. Set the elevation and skew..the elevation on the mount was DEAD wrong, I put the angle finder on the back of the mount and set it with that, turned the azimuth maybe five 1/8 inch times...VOILA!
I only have Vertical transponders until I get a multiswitch, so I am watching RetroJams right NOW!
I only have Vertical transponders until I get a multiswitch, so I am watching RetroJams right NOW!
SO I can go ahead and sink the pole in that position, knowing from there I can get G-10...I figured that was the worse spot to try and get a satellite...so I should be good to go...now on to Lowe's for some concrete! :clap
Thanks again to you ALL for your help. :up
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Always love it when someone gets a dish/ receiver working
G10 is a great satellite. Lots of good stuff on there
Always love it when someone gets a dish/ receiver working
G10 is a great satellite. Lots of good stuff on there
CONGRATS! Now the fun really begins! G10 was my first, and only satellite I thought I would ever need.....well, G10 is a "gateway" satellite
Congrats Keith, glad you found it. That was why I mentioned checking the pole for plumb in my PM.......now you can dig a hole! haha
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Yeah I have the 2 3/8 pipe already, I need to go get a bag of ready-mix and figure out how deep I want to bury it, whether or not I need to break out the porta-band and cut the pipe...I'd like to have enough room to drive the lawnmower around under it....
the pipe is 8' long already... say isn't there a thread on installing a mast here somewhere?...Hummm search is my friend, search is my friend....
I might go ahead and order a motor while I have the money, and fix the 1m dish up and get that going...STAB motor or sg2100?
the pipe is 8' long already... say isn't there a thread on installing a mast here somewhere?...Hummm search is my friend, search is my friend....
I might go ahead and order a motor while I have the money, and fix the 1m dish up and get that going...STAB motor or sg2100?
SG-2100 seems to be a favorite around here, but the HH-100 and 120 are supposed to be able to support a heavier dish. They move VERY slowly however, from what I've read. SG-2100 has a useful reset button and a button control on the motor to move the motor from the install site.
Make sure you fill the fence post with cement while you have it mixed. That will solidify your mounting pole considerably. Use an angle finder on all sides of the post and check for plumbness frequently as the cement sets.
Did you get the "round" dish working on G-10R or the elliptical?
Make sure you fill the fence post with cement while you have it mixed. That will solidify your mounting pole considerably. Use an angle finder on all sides of the post and check for plumbness frequently as the cement sets.
Did you get the "round" dish working on G-10R or the elliptical?
Some people disagree , but I find it much easier to hunt sats with an inexpensive signal meter ( from EBay ) . You move the dish untill you peak the signal .
This does not tell you which sat you are on . What I do is add a sat to the list named " Test " or what ever you wish . Then blind scan . Then cross reference the channels you get with lyngsat.com .
Be aware that just because tou peaked the signal meter , you may not get channels when you blind scan . DTV sats are very strong , but will not yeald channels . DN sats are strong , also , but if you get any channels on a scan , almost all will be scrambled , except a few promotional channels and radio channels .
Dig the hole for the pipe as deep as you can get it Use as much concrete as you wish . Make sure the pipe is 100% plumb .. Make sure the pipe does not start leaning before the concrete drys .
Every time you find a sat , mark the pioe to that location with a magic marker .
Due south sats are often easier to find , since you do not need to worry about skewing the LNBF .
Remember , each sat will have different elevation and skew . But since many sats are 2 degrees apart , you can usually find the next adjacent sat with the angles that worked on the last one . Then peak all the angles for the new sat you find .
Wyr
I have the HH-100 & like it better than the SG-2100 . It seems to be better / heavier made .
A 48" level really helps on the pole .
Wyr
I have angle finders, 4-foot levels, heck I even have a 6 foot level that my Late Dad had...That pole WILL be level if I can help it...
I didn't want to use 15 bags of concrete to install it, for if I EVER want to move it I am going to have a helluva time pulling it up without a trackhoe.
I finally got the second elliptical dish aimed, the mast for the 1m was bigger, either 2 1/2 or 3 inches so I couldn't use that. I have a non-skewable P* mount that is lighter than the skewable mount...I need to see how much weight the sg2100 can move and weigh the P* dish and see where I stand with it.
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