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I did NOT blame HW. I stated, clearly, that it happened during his Administration before Clinton took office.. No need to carry this argument any further.
OK, I'm sorry, but I'm curious... why is it so hard to say "oops, I was wrong."?
This is like so many government actions. It takes 20 years for the problem to grow and grow. No one even thought much of this issue 8 years ago, now every day it is an ordeal to find out what station you've lost next. I have no problem with the cable channels charging whatever the market will bear, there is no good guy or bad guy in that debate. But the Broadcast Stations were always supposed to be for free for local viewers. The Senators have all cashed their checks and could care less now, and it will be hard to fight the major networks and broadcasters in order to change things.
Don't forget the 1996 deregulation that created the media monstrosities (and blurred the lines between broadcast and cable station owners) that gave them even more leverage in these negotiations. Before anyone goes off on a politial tangent, the vote was so lopsided that even if Clinton had vetoed it, it would have passed anyway.
OK, every body that is throwing a hissy fit about the channels refusing carriage until Dish gives them their price.
Call Charlie and tell him you will pay whatever it costs to have all these channels, you don't care how much your bill goes up.
$10, $20, $50 per month, just to have no more disputes - how much are you willing to pay?
Call Charlie and tell him you will pay whatever it costs to have all these channels, you don't care how much your bill goes up.
$10, $20, $50 per month, just to have no more disputes - how much are you willing to pay?
DirecTV prices
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So for me $25 more a month. $300 more a year to have DISH just pay.
Everyone's situation is different. For me, DirecTV was actually cheaper.
Regular, non-promotional, every day prices:
DirecTV Choice Xtra all included 4 rooms - $118
Dish AT 250 - $90
Hopper3 DVR Fee - $15
(3) Joey fees - $21
Total - $126
Actually, after calculating the promo price with DTV and comparing that to the promo price I payed with Dish AND after factoring in the Dish ETF I STILL save nearly $600 in the first 2 years alone! So, in my case the decision was easy.
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Regular, non-promotional, every day prices:
DirecTV Choice Xtra all included 4 rooms - $118
Dish AT 250 - $90
Hopper3 DVR Fee - $15
(3) Joey fees - $21
Total - $126
Actually, after calculating the promo price with DTV and comparing that to the promo price I payed with Dish AND after factoring in the Dish ETF I STILL save nearly $600 in the first 2 years alone! So, in my case the decision was easy.
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Ah, the DTV troll is back. Comparing Choice Xtra to AT250, no less.
Also since 2008, Dish has added quite a few new channels to the package. There is no free lunch. Back in 1999 when I got Dish, I had their biggest main pack for Dish 300 (119 bird), was AT40. , $20 a month,. All of these different channels up the cost, and many like ESPN is charging a fortune. If Dish sold all sports in a separate package, our price would be less for the package as Sports charges more than anything basic. So if you do the math, what we pay now for about 275 channels is not all that bad, adding inflation, and what the programmers charge. Dish still has a $19.95 package, the Welcome pack, if someone just wants basics.
Also in 1999, we only have the East/West Networks, before locals. I think the Super Stations were also offered then, but there were less channels so a lot less in disputes. No locals so no local TV station to have a dispute with.
Dish has come a long way since 1999. we all want more but do not like paying more. Adding more channels, we also have more disputes.
Gee whiz! I wasn't making a standard, all-inclusive comparison of the packages. I said that in my case the cost is cheaper. AT250 and Choice Xtra are the lowest packages with each service that have all of the channels I want. That may not be true for you and that's fine. As I said, everyone's situation is different. YMMV.
HOWEVER
If you would prefer to compare the AT250 to Choice Ultimate DTV would still be $3 cheaper. But let's not let facts get in the way of a good debate.
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Exactly!
The Disputes save Dish money, as their fees to the programmers are less money as the fees you pay Dish either go up or remain the same.
If Dish saves a penny here or a Nickel there do you think they will NOT raise rates this year or provide a discount on the bill?
Do you like making up your own facts? Locals are STILL free for those who are willing to put up antennas. Yes, some people can not receive OTA. I personally would have no problem with those who can't get OTA not being charged for locals.
I see you conveniently left out the itemization of DTV. So, let's let the facts get in the way:
DTV:
91.99 Premier
15 DVR
6.50 * 4 rooms (they still charge an equipment fee for the first TV, right?)
(do you have an RSN surcharge?)
Total: 132.99
DISH:
89.99 AT250
15 DVR
7 * 3 rooms (first room free)
Total: 125.99
Sports are very popular. If they did this, that would mean a lot less viewers for a lot of the non sports channels, which would mean those channels would fold up and be no more. It's a two way street, and one of the reasons we haven't seen Ala carte yet.
Me personally, I would love this. Pay the fee on one T. V for my sports, and get the rest from Hulu and Netflix. I would love to not pay for lifetime, CNN, Fox news, Oprah's channel, etc....
there are alot of channels that just need to go away
alacarte would weed them out.
alacarte would weed them out.
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