VIP Receiver Retirement

[dishdude]

They are the idiots who started the problem to begin with by offering this crazy type setup to begin with.

I agree they where nice when they first came out because you could save the $5 additional Tv fee. But after they raised the receiver fees, to make up for the secondary television they should have been discontinued back then.

I personally never liked duo receivers like the 322/222/722

#1 it was confusing as hell for customers to try to explain how this worked over the phone.

#2 many customers thought they where getting 2 DVR’s in the case of a 722. Can’t tell you how many issues this created as customers would then demand we bring them another DVR. Then when we did install a 612 for example it was a fight over the additional monthly fees.

#3 what a nightmare to install. In the early days we had to run 2 wires to the Tv, with a 3rd possibly to feed tv2. Then you had the phone line that needed to be hooked up to avoid the Tv2 fee.

Things got better with dishpro plus technology, but still crappy trying to run Tv2 on analog SD.

Too bad there was copyright issues with HD in the clear. Would have been awesome for an HD modulator like what they had with the model 5000

Yeah they were a real nightmare to install at first, especially since they required a phone connection and second line of coax. I think the big driver behind these receivers was to prevent stacking. The benefit on the DVR units was the ability to watch shows in more than 1 room.

 

[MikeD-C05]

I'd love to know how many ViP receivers are out there. I love mine, it's simple, stable and does everything I need.

NO, you will be assimilated to the Wally and Hopper class of receivers. Resistance is futile. Hey seriously, a Wally with a dual tuner ota dongle and your own hard drive can completely replace your Vip receiver . I have been testing my Wally and it works just as good as my hopper and I can record 2 sat channels and 2 ota channels at the same time. This is just like the ViP 722k and there is NO DVR FEE -as long as you unass the one time $40.00 fee for the software to be enabled. The only thing you would lose is the tv 2 connection and you can't use Dish anywhere apps with it.

 

[dare2be]

NO, you will be assimilated to the Wally and Hopper class of receivers. Resistance is futile. Hey seriously, a Wally with a dual tuner ota dongle and your own hard drive can completely replace your Vip receiver . I have been testing my Wally and it works just as good as my hopper and I can record 2 sat channels and 2 ota channels at the same time. This is just like the ViP 722k and there is NO DVR FEE -as long as you unass the one time $40.00 fee for the software to be enabled. The only thing you would lose is the tv 2 connection and you can't use Dish anywhere apps with it.

And you would lose the component connection. And list view, and...

 

[trojan67]

According to DISH they're getting rid of the 222's and 722's to provide High Definition to every TV.

Makes a lot of sense, just did a 222k installation, tv2 looks like sh*t

 

[TheKrell]

Makes a lot of sense, just did a 222k installation, tv2 looks like sh*t

Really? Are you viewing TV2 via the RF output? I haven't seen a good quality RF modulator since my 4900.

 

[HipKat]

Makes a lot of sense, just did a 222k installation, tv2 looks like sh*t

If you haven’t, change the modulator to cable and put TV to channel 73, many times that will clear up a bad picture.

 

[MikeD-C05]

And you would lose the component connection. And list view, and...

Trade offs. I use only hdmi on everything now . I haven’t used component since hd became widespread.

 

[pamajestic]

Remember when the 622/722 were introduced a lot of people only had one HD TV in the living room. The TV2 output served the CRT’s in the bedroom and kitchen quite well.

 

[ewindowman]

I own a 622 and a 922 . After January I won’t be able to reactive them if they are deactivated? If so Dish better hop me over a few new receivers.

 

[dare2be]

Trade offs. I use only hdmi on everything now . I haven’t used component since hd became widespread.

Component is useful for offloading content.

 

[Pepper]

Component is useful for offloading content.

You just explained why they got rid of it.

 

[dare2be]

Yep, and I'm still holding on to Fair Use.

 

[navychop]

I own a 622 and a 922 . After January I won’t be able to reactive them if they are deactivated? If so Dish better hop me over a few new receivers.

How’s that analog cell phone working for you that you had in a drawer, inactivated?

If you want a chance at a replacement, perhaps you should keep them active.

I doubt Dish sees any requirement to replace obsolete inactive receivers. If they did, I’m sure there’d be a lot of us keeping 301s and other old STBs on hand, hoping to score new equipment.

 

[MikeD-C05]

Component is useful for offloading content.

True , I forgot about that aspect, but I haven’t had a dvd recorder in years. But aren’t there conversion cables you could use with it? I mean rca jacks to component ?

 

[ewindowman]

How’s that analog cell phone working for you that you had in a drawer, inactivated?

If you want a chance at a replacement, perhaps you should keep them active.

I doubt Dish sees any requirement to replace obsolete inactive receivers. If they did, I’m sure there’d be a lot of us keeping 301s and other old STBs on hand, hoping to score new equipment.

I forgot all about those phones . I am calling cellular one now. Maybe I can get a new Microsoft phone or a Black Berry with a flip out keyboard. I also found my old zune . And Walkman with cassette.

 

[Jim5506]

I use component output to feed a CRT projector and a direct view 34 inch CRT HDTV.

Also use it to feed my Hauppauge HD PVR.

I have bought 2 more HDMI to component converters similar to my HD Fury that feeds the Sony D50.

 

[MikeD-C05]

I use component output to feed a CRT projector and a direct view 34 inch CRT HDTV.

Also use it to feed my Hauppauge HD PVR.

I have bought 2 more HDMI to component converters similar to my HD Fury that feeds the Sony D50.

That sounds like it would work for Dare2be and his complaint the Wally had no component output. Thanks .

 

[dishdude]

I tried not to correct you guys, but it's driving me crazy. It's a composite output!

 

[dare2be]

That sounds like it would work for Dare2be and his complaint the Wally had no component output. Thanks .

Nope. Those HDMI to component adapters usually produce sub-par picture, plus many times the HDCP blocks recording. Plus with only one HDMI output, I'd have to have the recorder and the adapter powered on all the time to pass through the video to the TV. HDMI to TV and a separate component signal to the recorder solves all those issues.

FYI, I'm not talking composite SD recording (like the mentioned DVD recorder), I'm talking component HD recording.

 

[trojan67]

Really? Are you viewing TV2 via the RF output? I haven't seen a good quality RF modulator since my 4900.

RF out, picture was very poor, not really a big deal