aramus8 said:

I totally agree with garn9173. I never had a provider, cable, D*, or PrimeStar play games with programming the way E* does. I too thought I could save some money with E*, but then came the price increases, all the add in charges, and they weren't any cheaper at all. I escaped them as soon as I could and went back to D*. As others have said, E* markets to budget conscious consumers while D* uses a much different business model than E*. They want long term credit worthy subs. Those are the ones that won't be chased off by up front costs and use "advanced services" which account for almost half of D*'s subs now according to their latest financial reports. Their position on this isn't going to change and in the long run your costs with D* will be about the same as E*. The big difference is you'll have the channels you want.

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DishDave said:

give it a break same as i have with dish 2 dual tuner dvr hd and a stand alone hd receiver.
Trust me i have not trolling i never post in DTV area i had DTV 1x time in my life back wehn they had ussb.

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Questioner said:

You can get phone, hdtv, and internet for not much more than what many people are paying for directv alone right now.

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charper1 said:

EXACTLY! The PQ sucks; as in black, as it is not offered at ALL - at ANY PRICE; give it a rest already. FiOS is NOT the end-all, be-all. They are a great VERY regional provider that fills some need market wise. I will pay less money overall with DirecTV for likely less than 1% or 2% difference in PQ AND I get programming MOST FiOS TV users would pee themselves to have and my own hand-selected ISP, telephone/VoIP, and cellular providers. With services I prefer and are better; with the noted exception of the ISP 8mbps vs the FiOS faster service. Now I can't yet speak to the FiOS customer service, but I have ZERO issues across the board with those I have now and there is absolutely no issues with needing to pay one company vs 2, 3 or whatever.

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Questioner said:

Fios offers the best hd quality at any pricepoint.

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DishDave said:

I just find it crazy DTV wants me to spend $396.00 to lease my equipment. I understand thay have more HD But damn thats alot of money. And when you factor in 2ys contract WOW.

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grydlok said:

I had to laugh when I saw that. Nice comeback

Too bad Comcast in my area has more HD channels than Verizon.

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joed32 said:

If you think Directv is too expensive then why are you considering it as one of your options? Just cross it off your list and choose another service.

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ScoBuck said:

Doesn't everyone have more HD channels than FiOS?

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DishDave said:

Trust me i'm no troll right now i have Dish but with the recent issues with amc14 i might want to switch over to DTV. With Dish i have 2 vip722 dual tuner dvrs and a vip 211 receiver total out of pocket expense was $50.00 and 18 month contract. My monthly programming is a $49.99 dvr advantage $10.00 hd essential $7.00 lease fee each receiver and $5.98 dvr fee.

I also have the option of either Comcast or Fios. Just checking my options.

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charper1 said:

EXACTLY! The PQ sucks; as in black, as it is not offered at ALL - at ANY PRICE; give it a rest already. FiOS is NOT the end-all, be-all. They are a great VERY regional provider that fills some need market wise. I will pay less money overall with DirecTV for likely less than 1% or 2% difference in PQ AND I get programming MOST FiOS TV users would pee themselves to have and my own hand-selected ISP, telephone/VoIP, and cellular providers. With services I prefer and are better; with the noted exception of the ISP 8mbps vs the FiOS faster service. Now I can't yet speak to the FiOS customer service, but I have ZERO issues across the board with those I have now and there is absolutely no issues with needing to pay one company vs 2, 3 or whatever.

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Questioner said:

I think you will find most fios users would not give up their service for a few channels they do not get. Too many advantages.

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tds4182 said:

Questioner, if you've already answered this question before, please accept my apology for asking it again, but here it is:

Do you have FIOS service for your television now?

If so, great, good for you. If not, why do you come onto a D* oriented site and praise them so much while constantly bitching about/badmouthing D*?

The main reason that most of us do not have it is because it's not even available in the area in which we live. Also, to the best of my knowledge, they (FIOS) don't offer a dual-tuner HD DVR.

I'm asking this in good faith, I'd appreciate a like-minded reply.

Thanks in advance.

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tds4182 said:

Questioner, if you've already answered this question before, please accept my apology for asking it again, but here it is:

Do you have FIOS service for your television now?

If so, great, good for you. If not, why do you come onto a D* oriented site and praise them so much while constantly bitching about/badmouthing D*?

The main reason that most of us do not have it is because it's not even available in the area in which we live. Also, to the best of my knowledge, they (FIOS) don't offer a dual-tuner HD DVR.

I'm asking this in good faith, I'd appreciate a like-minded reply.

Thanks in advance.

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ScoBuck said:

Doesn't everyone have more HD channels than FiOS?

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Questioner said:

If you want some extra channels of stretch o vision as opposed to top notch picture quality, more local channels in hd in most markets, the ability to use tivo hd, a much more robust on demand offering and dvr and media sharing, that's your choice.

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grydlok said:

Before he answers it's a dual tuner Motorola box. It has a pretty picture but thats about it. The guide is awful and slow. Once you get pass the Internet speed you find it not that great.

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