2011-12 NFL Season

meStevo · Sep 21, 2011

salsadancer7 said:
I do not underdtand why the defense is not allowed to freely substitute as many times as they want. Can someone explain that to me?

They can, but you don't have time to substitute if a team is running no-huddle, which the Rams were.

Ramy · Sep 21, 2011

salsadancer7 said:
I do not underdtand why the defense is not allowed to freely substitute as many times as they want. Can someone explain that to me?

They only get as much time as the offense allows them or if the offense subs then the defense is allowed to sub. Other than that they can try to sub but if the offense doesn't they can snap the ball and catch them with too many or too few men on the field.

cosmo_kramer · Sep 21, 2011

meStevo said:
One player went on the radio and all but admitted it without explicitly saying that's what happened, and a Rams player said that the Giants on the field said 'someone needs to go down' so they could sub in their goal line package. If NFL Films caught any of that audio... or if video shows anyone from the sideline signaling a fall... really should take action. Appears that they won't in this case.

It was Bradford that said it and you could see by his reaction on the video when time was called that he knew they were faking.

"They couldn't get subbed, they couldn't line up," Rams quarterback Sam Bradford said. "Someone said, 'Someone go down, someone go down,' so someone just went down and grabbed a cramp."

Rams coach Steve Spagnuolo said the team has notified the league office.

"That'll go on the list of things we're going to send in," Spagnuolo said. "I think the league is looking into it. I'll let it run its course from that point of view."

The New York Daily News reported Wednesday that the Giants won't be punished. An NFL spokesman told the newspaper that players can't be punished for faking injuries unless they admit they weren't really hurt -- something no one on the Giants has said.

St. Louis Rams file claim to NFL that New York Giants faked injuries - ESPN

SandraC · Sep 21, 2011

salsadancer7 said:
I do not underdtand why the defense is not allowed to freely substitute as many times as they want. Can someone explain that to me?

As everyone has said, of course the defense is always allowed to substitute as much as they like, they just better be ready when the ball is snapped...which can be difficult when the O is running no huddle.

My point was that when a player goes down on defense they should do the opposite, allow only the injured player to be subbed, and nobody else. This does give the defense a breather, which you cannot help, but does not allow them to substitute to fit the situation.

Kinda like the NHL, where if a team ices the puck they are not allowed to substitute before the next faceoff.

Sandra

yaz96 · Sep 21, 2011

SandraC said:
As everyone has said, of course the defense is always allowed to substitute as much as they like, they just better be ready when the ball is snapped...which can be difficult when the O is running no huddle.

My point was that when a player goes down on defense they should do the opposite, allow only the injured player to be subbed, and nobody else. This does give the defense a breather, which you cannot help, but does not allow them to substitute to fit the situation.

Kinda like the NHL, where if a team ices the puck they are not allowed to substitute before the next faceoff.

Sandra

Good idea Sandra! When are you running for commish? Let's get the bum out!!

cosmo_kramer · Sep 21, 2011

SandraC said:
As everyone has said, of course the defense is always allowed to substitute as much as they like, they just better be ready when the ball is snapped...which can be difficult when the O is running no huddle.

My point was that when a player goes down on defense they should do the opposite, allow only the injured player to be subbed, and nobody else. This does give the defense a breather, which you cannot help, but does not allow them to substitute to fit the situation.

Kinda like the NHL, where if a team ices the puck they are not allowed to substitute before the next faceoff.

Sandra

One problem would be like what happened in this week's example: the two players flopped just before the snap, after they had already made some other substitutions.

Jimbo · Sep 22, 2011

salsadancer7 said:
Is Tampa in the same caliber as KC? Not really because they are more or less the same team.

They Won their division at 10-6 last year ..... no they are NOT a 5 win team, that might be a stretch for KC this year.

Winning the AFC west is nothing to write home about.

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Jimbo · Sep 22, 2011

salsadancer7 said:
I do not underdtand why the defense is not allowed to freely substitute as many times as they want. Can someone explain that to me?

Typically, you can, you could swap out all 11 if you wanted, but be ready for penalties as thy would not all get there in time .... I like what Sandra is saying, your only allowed to sub for the guy injured, however, then you just KNOW who the want to get off the field ..

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SabresRule · Sep 22, 2011

HD MM said:
Cleveland Browns WR/RS Josh Cribbs is AFC Special Teams Player of the Week!

Impressive and surprising, given that he didn't have one of his many happy returns to the end zone.

HD MM · Sep 23, 2011

Jamaal Charles is out for the season with an ACL injury, but that didn't stop the NFL from trying to capitalize on it and gain a few extra fantasy football sign-ups. What's your reaction to this ad?

salsadancer7 · Sep 23, 2011

HD MM said:
Jamaal Charles is out for the season with an ACL injury, but that didn't stop the NFL from trying to capitalize on it and gain a few extra fantasy football sign-ups. What's your reaction to this ad?

That is AWFUL!!! The are trying to do just that...capitalize on the misfortune of someone else.... that is disgusting...

Rey · Sep 23, 2011

another reason for me to hate fantasy football

salsadancer7 · Sep 23, 2011

rey_1178 said:
another reason for me to hate fantasy football

This ain't Fantasy Football's fault.... The NFL would have NEVER give it it's blessing without them being a part in it.

Rey · Sep 23, 2011

salsadancer7 said:
This ain't Fantasy Football's fault.... The NFL would have NEVER give it it's blessing without them being a part in it.

still hate it

cosmo_kramer · Sep 23, 2011

Look at the little red logo in the bottom right....

Rey · Sep 23, 2011

cosmo_kramer said:
Look at the little red logo in the bottom right....

:haha yep!

salsadancer7 · Sep 23, 2011

cosmo_kramer said:
Look at the little red logo in the bottom right....

Wonderful...just as disgusting...!

HD MM · Sep 23, 2011

Former Cleveland Browns Player Orlando Brown Found Dead!!

Cleveland.com posted today by way of The Baltimore Sun that former Cleveland Browns offensive lineman Orlando Brown has passed away. He was reportedly found unresponsive in his Baltimore apartment. Police don’t suspect foul play.

Brown probably wouldn’t have been a memorable Cleveland Browns player if not for an incident where he pushed Jeff Triplette after getting hit in the eye with a penalty marker that was weighted with some quantity of metal BBs. The story was interesting because Brown ended up being very injured by the penalty flag, but nobody knew it at the time.

The attack on the referee was first viewed far more scandalously than it ended up being viewed in hindsight after the extent of the injury was known. It was like a lesson in controversy and outrage as Brown found himself going from indescribable villain to a more sympathetic misunderstood guy who lost three seasons of his NFL career.

Brown eventually made it back to the field with the Baltimore Ravens after receiving a settlement with the NFL over his injury at the hands of Triplette’s penalty flag. Unfortunately, that’s where the story ends for 6’7? giant Orlando Brown. At the young age of 40, he has passed away.

Orlando Brown, former Cleveland Browns player, found dead | cleveland.com

Skyhi · Sep 23, 2011

Way too young. RIP.

salsadancer7 · Sep 23, 2011

HD MM said:
Orlando Brown, former Cleveland Browns player, found dead | cleveland.com

wow.....R.I.P. Talk about professional football being WORSE than better for a family.... this is a terrible tragedy. Did he have any family like children and a wife?

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