DIRECTV in Las Vegas

[CSM]

Scott that new Server that outputs to 4k over HDMI that will be out in a year will just have the current guide on it?

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

Scott that new Server that outputs to 4k over HDMI that will be out in a year will just have the current guide on it?

No idea. I was told that server may not see the light of day or only be used in commercial establishments. They wouldn't give more details.

 

[mdram]

so there may be no plan for a new unit for normal users?

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

so there may be no plan for a new unit for normal users?

If I had to guess I would say that is accurate, however should know more in about 2 1/2 hours or so.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

Joseph Gordon Levitt takes the stage.

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[maestro7]

over a year? way too long. find out if they are prepared to lose subs over the wait

They're waiting over a year because 4K standards are still getting worked out.

Ask anyone in broadcasting and they'll tell you this.

There is no risk in waiting; there'd be a bigger risk in making the wrong investment now.

 

[CSM]

I have both RVU and a C61K and the RVU has been working for me better than the C61K

Scott does the guide run fast on the 4k sets? Also when I tried it on my Samsung 2012 the guide and PQ looked washed out even adjusting the settings.

 

[rad]

They're waiting over a year because 4K standards are still getting worked out.

Ask anyone in broadcasting and they'll tell you this.

There is no risk in waiting; there'd be a bigger risk in making the wrong investment now.

Why does the ATSC 3.0 standards have anything to do with AT&T waiting for a year to release a new STB that does 4K via it's HDMI and not needing a client? AT&T doesn't care about OTA reception anymore so that's not the reason for a holdup.

 

[rad]

Scott does the guide run fast on the 4k sets? Also when I tried it on my Samsung 2012 the guide and PQ looked washed out even adjusting the settings.

Not Scott but I can tell you the difference using the RVU client on a Samsung 2016 model vs a Samsung 2013 is night and day. If it wasn't for the client not supporting screen fit mode I'd probably give back the C61K and just use the client.

 

[maestro7]

Why does the ATSC 3.0 standards have anything to do with AT&T waiting for a year to release a new STB that does 4K via it's HDMI and not needing a client? AT&T doesn't care about OTA reception anymore so that's not the reason for a holdup.

Because it's not just ATSC standards. I've posted previously about this. Most high-def shops are waiting on both protocol and physical topology standards to be set before they make the same (or greater) sunk cost in 4K as they have in HD.

Remember -- most broadcasters are only at 720p/1080i. They'd have to make a similar major investment just to get to 1080p.

None of this is simply flipping a switch. We only see 4K over sat because it's merely air streaming bits.

You realize a 4K stream is 12GB, yes? That should give you a better idea.

 

[rad]

Because it's not just ATSC standards. I've posted previously about this. Most high-def shops are waiting on both protocol and physical topology standards to be set before they make the same (or greater) sunk cost in 4K as they have in HD.

Remember -- most broadcasters are only at 720p/1080i. They'd have to make a similar major investment just to get to 1080p.

None of this is simply flipping a switch.

And again what does that have to do with why AT&T would wait? Whatever broadcasters decide to do on their end is up to them, as long as the standard between the set top box and the TV's HDMI input isn't changing who cares about the production end of the equation?

 

[maestro7]

And again what does that have to do with why AT&T would wait? Whatever broadcasters decide to do on their end is up to them, as long as the standard between the set top box and the TV's HDMI input isn't changing who cares about the production end of the equation?

Why should a business invest in change that won't be realized until later? Most cost decisions are to resolve issues now, not for things that could potentially change in major ways.

 

[CSM]

Why not just treat the C61k like a regular Genie Mini, they still charge for that. They still charge a mirroring fee for the RVU 4k TV.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

They do.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

Ok the keynote with AT&T / DIRECTV execs is about to start. I will report anything of interest regarding DIRECTV.

 

[Jimbo]

How utterly disappointing, if true, that a true 4k receiver is a year away. AT&T has REALLY fallen behind Dish on the hardware front.

How so, is DISH doing 4K with a recvr yet ?

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

They kick off by announcing 5G is coming. It will be interesting to see how fast that is.

The AT&T LTE Network (here in the hotel) is over 85 Mb/s however the AT&T Wifi is only testing out at 21 Mb/s.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

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[Scott Greczkowski]

Currently they are telling about some of the things AT&T has done in 2016.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

How so, is DISH doing 4K with a recvr yet ?

Yes the Hopper 3.