Need some help - 8 foot Unimesh install

[cyberham]

Watching it now. Here are the technical specs:

 

[mr3p]

To watch 4:2:2 feed from Edison Mio do you stream to another device for playback or is there some way to watch without external streaming?

 

[comfortably_numb]

Which model? Are you streaming to a STB for playback?

The tuner is a Tandberg RX1290. It's supposed to display 4:2:2 directly. No streaming involved

 

[comfortably_numb]

is there some way to watch without external streaming?

Not with the Edision, no

 

[mr3p]

The tuner is a Tandberg RX1290. It's supposed to display 4:2:2 directly. No streaming involved

Whats the direct output, VGA?

 

[comfortably_numb]

Whats the direct output, VGA?

SDI, which is then fed into a converter to output HDMI

 

[cyberham]

To watch 4:2:2 feed from Edison Mio do you stream to another device for playback or is there some way to watch without external streaming?

I stream via my wifi to my laptop running PotPlayer and connect the HDMI port back to the TV. I have no way to view 4.2.2 without streaming. Comfortably_numb is working to watch 4.2.2 directly from his receiver without streaming.

 

[mr3p]

SDI, which is then fed into a converter to output HDMI

From page 12 of the manual, MPEG 4:2:2 mode support (MPEG 2 Only)

 

[comfortably_numb]

From page 12 of the manual, MPEG 4:2:2 mode support (MPEG 2 Only)

Is the feed on 89 MPEG 2?

 

[cyberham]

Copied from PotPlayer:

 

[comfortably_numb]

Copied from PotPlayer:

View attachment 184363

Thanks. MPEG 2 and H264, the Tandberg should be able to decode it I would think

 

[mr3p]

Is the feed on 89 MPEG 2?

According to what cyberham posted, its AVC or h.264 which is what your receiver was telling you. Your receiver can't decode it.

 

[comfortably_numb]

According to what cyberham posted, its AVC or h.264 which is what your receiver was telling you. Your receiver can't decode it.

The receiver decodes h.264 just fine.. it's been tuning all unscrambled FTA feeds except HEVC h.265

 

[mr3p]

The receiver decodes h.264 just fine.. it's been tuning all unscrambled FTA feeds except HEVC h.265

Which feeds have you received that are h.264? I ask because where in the manual do you see that it supports h.264 or mpeg4?

 

[comfortably_numb]

Which feeds have you received that are h.264

PBS on 99 KU is one example.

 

[mr3p]

PBS on 99 KU is one example.

Is that a 4:2:2 feed? The manual specifies MPEG 4:2:2 mode support (MPEG 2 Only)

 

[comfortably_numb]

Is that a 4:2:2 feed?

No, it's MPEG-4 h.264. You asked me which feeds the receiver has tuned that are h.264 MPEG-4.

 

[mr3p]

No, it's MPEG-4 h.264. You asked me which feeds the receiver has tuned that are h.264 MPEG-4.

My apologies for the confusion as I was referring to 4:2:2. Unfortunately the manual specifies for 4.2.2 feeds it only supports mpeg2. For regular 4:2:0 feeds, yes h.264 is supported. See manual page 12. You won't be able to view any 4:2:2 feeds with that recevier.

 

[a33]

Perhaps print the doc. and granulate it. Highlighter, c/p paste the statements to individual lines.
You might have stopped short. Many do when trying to digest this stuff.

Well, you seem to have a high opinion of my understanding of motorized setups (quod non).


You are right, though, that I stopped reading carefully, when I first read the evident mistake in the procedure. I then read the rest rather superficially. No need to invest time in digesting nonsense.

Before posting here ( Need some help - 8 foot Unimesh install ), however, I read the whole procedure more carefully again, to check and indicate which parts of the procedure I found wrong, and where the crucial step was where it went wrong (which part I quoted in the quote).


On-topic:
I stand by what I wrote:

What's the point in rotating the whole setup around the pole, when you have only checked at one side (the east side), and not yet made certain on both sides that the north/south outlining is indeed not OK?

When you've only checked one side (the east side) and the "elevation" is not OK, you don´t know if that is because of a north/south alignment problem, or because of an elevation/declination alignment problem.
So it is premature to apply the north/south alignment fix, when you don't know if that is really the problem. So you could make things worse for yourself, by applying that "fix", for a non-existing problem.
The germans have a nice word for that: "verschlimmbessert". By thinking you made it better, you actually made it worse.

Before applying a fix, you must first diagnose if the not-following the arc is (more or less) symmetrical around south (north), or not.
If not, that should be fixed first. As I wrote here: Patriot Dish alignment Problem - Ricks Satellite Wildfeed and Backhaul Forum :

Note: for elevation/declination assesment of the arc you need to follow a "symmetrical" east/west arc, so you need a good north/south alignment already.

Anything unclear, about that?

Greetz,
A33

 

[arlo]

Well, you seem to have a high opinion of my understanding of motorized setups (quod non).


You are right, though, that I stopped reading carefully, when I first read the evident mistake in the procedure. I then read the rest rather superficially. No need to invest time in digesting nonsense.

Before posting here ( Need some help - 8 foot Unimesh install ), however, I read the whole procedure more carefully again, to check and indicate which parts of the procedure I found wrong, and where the crucial step was where it went wrong (which part I quoted in the quote).


On-topic:
I stand by what I wrote:

When you've only checked one side (the east side) and the "elevation" is not OK, you don´t know if that is because of a north/south alignment problem, or because of an elevation/declination alignment problem.
So it is premature to apply the north/south alignment fix, 'rwhen you don't know if that is really the problem. So you could make things worse for yourself, by applying that "fix", for a non-existing problem.
The germans have a nice word for that: "verschlimmbessert". By thinking you made it better, you actually made it worse.

Before applying a fix, you must first diagnose if the not-following the arc is (more or less) symmetrical around south (north), or not.
If not, that should be fixed first. As I wrote here: Patriot Dish alignment Problem - Ricks Satellite Wildfeed and Backhaul Forum :



Anything unclear, about that?

Greetz,
A33

Nope I don't doubt any of yours, or anyone's for that fact, hand's-on experience that can make these setups easy to understand.
Without reading at this exact moment your link. My assumption from 6-8 of the secrets guide was this.
To keep from hunting all over the place trying to get the mount and antenna to track properly. First concentrate on getting adjacent satellites from the middle of the arc , either side peaked so that you minimize the effect shown in 3 & 4 of the diagram.

I could be reading him wrong. But that's when you can start working out slight declination adjustments to follow the arc.
It's all open for interpretation and no need to get any fur ruffled. As long as the end results are acceptable.
Perhaps not many are even able to do a full arc track. I'd sure like to be able to. I have to wait until winter to get 131W when the leaves drop and 34.5W gives maybe 3.5 dB signal tops. Push pull, left right. As good as it gets.
Pivots on the polar mount may have some slop or even may not be parallel with the perfectly plumb pole in the ground.
Mine are converted to pillow block bearings. On an 80's local cast and fabricated mount.
All I can say was a visit to Munich some years ago and not speaking German was at first a clumsy feeling. The I found out almost everyone speaks English. But you still are amazed at the native language. And you try. right?
Eating German food and drinking German beer for a few weeks added a self-made phrase to my vocabulary. Das phartenderpantsen, ja!