VOOM should put TYORK on the payroll, provider her with a truck and equipment, and then hire 200 more just like her.
Should I ask for an antenna upgrade?
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t,
you called me a LIAR about the time factor per job and STILL are evading the issue!!!!! and the gal in rocklin is quoting you as scripture in the area of voom installs...
prosite??? the time factors???? extra $$$$??? either PROVE ME WRONG OR ADMIT IM RIGHT???
10 hours for one ird?????(115) hahahahahaha
dragon
you called me a LIAR about the time factor per job and STILL are evading the issue!!!!! and the gal in rocklin is quoting you as scripture in the area of voom installs...
prosite??? the time factors???? extra $$$$??? either PROVE ME WRONG OR ADMIT IM RIGHT???
10 hours for one ird?????(115) hahahahahaha
dragon
dragon002 said:
No will not admit you are right cause you are not
You know what i do not have to explain what i get paid to you but i did post and YES I GOT PAID 115.00 FOR 10 HOURS BUT NO IT WAS 3 IRDS.
but you know what i could care less if you believe me or not. i will not loss no sleep.
No need to bring Vicki into this .
t
t,
1 what is PROSITE? answer the question, you cant!!
2 you are a 2nd tier sub, a 3 ird install pays 165.00 and has a 2.5 hour time factor and after 2.5 hours im on the phone getting at least 75 per unit...from installsinc and approved by voom
3 do the ota upgrade do you call and get paid for a 65 ota and a40 svc fee for the upgrade???
4 that job should have paid 165 plus 40 plus 65 is $270 and taken no more than 3.5 hrs
5 and ive been doing this over five years myself and i generate one svc call per 200 installations, im no babe in the woods
dragon
1 what is PROSITE? answer the question, you cant!!
2 you are a 2nd tier sub, a 3 ird install pays 165.00 and has a 2.5 hour time factor and after 2.5 hours im on the phone getting at least 75 per unit...from installsinc and approved by voom
3 do the ota upgrade do you call and get paid for a 65 ota and a40 svc fee for the upgrade???
4 that job should have paid 165 plus 40 plus 65 is $270 and taken no more than 3.5 hrs
5 and ive been doing this over five years myself and i generate one svc call per 200 installations, im no babe in the woods
dragon
Reposting from another thread since it also applies here:
Dragon,
I don't know who you are...yet, but I am familiar with your writing style (or lack thereof). Why don't you tell us who you are before someone matches your current alias with one of your former aliases?
Now is the time to come clean.....
Just realized after reading your last post...that I tore into you sometime last summer for your repeated tactless antics and generally acting the fool. Don't have time to search through my posts at this late hour.
Dragon,
I don't know who you are...yet, but I am familiar with your writing style (or lack thereof). Why don't you tell us who you are before someone matches your current alias with one of your former aliases?
Now is the time to come clean.....
Just realized after reading your last post...that I tore into you sometime last summer for your repeated tactless antics and generally acting the fool. Don't have time to search through my posts at this late hour.
riffjim4069 said:
first off why the hate
second, i went on / found this site about a month ago
third, i posted something about voom and vicki has been attacking ever since, my posts are the same as hers, or should be
fourth , are you a literary agent or a scholar into writing novels?? my lack there of??
fifth, i dont see staff member or moderater by your name , so why the questions??
dragon
dragon002 said:
1 useless tech
2 if you get paid 165.00 for 3 ird than i am get ripe off big time Or maybe you are being over paid.
3 no i only get 30% over what the antenna cost and the on i use is 45.00 and no i don't get 40 svc if on the orginal install and i only get 35.00
4 like i said if you get paid this much i am getting ripe off or maybe you are just being overpaid or over charging.
5 but how may customer request for a different installer beings you didn't do it right the first time.
t.
1 useless tech??? it is a scheduling platform,,,,what do you use to get work thru??? a fax machine?? if so you are a sub.
2,3,4 not saying you are getting ripped at all, my pay is how my contract with installs inc was negotiated.
5 i would have been charged back if a different tech went there and found something wrong, and could prove it with evidence.
dragon
2,3,4 not saying you are getting ripped at all, my pay is how my contract with installs inc was negotiated.
5 i would have been charged back if a different tech went there and found something wrong, and could prove it with evidence.
dragon
No hate over here...why so defensive? I am just stating that you have visited the VOOM Forum in the past and posted under another alias. I base this on what you say, how you interact with Forum members, and the reactions your comments incite. Forum members and Staff have caught other individuals returning to the VOOM Forum after they were banned. I may be wrong, but I am probably right. Your reaction to my last post only confirms my suspicion.
As far as your professional differences with TYORK, perhaps all you need is a three day vacation.
As far as your professional differences with TYORK, perhaps all you need is a three day vacation.
dragon002 said:
No i do not get my work from a fax machine sorry do you? I know what i am thank you/
You are not going to tell me that the pay is that much different cause if this is the case i will be making some phone calls on Monday morning .
You told me that you didn't work directly from installs inc you work from someone out in Iowa or somewhere. And if you did work directly for install Inc than i would think you would know who your Field Manger was but if i remember right you had no clue...
Not always the case not for the ota wrong again.
t
Just my 2 worthless cents:
1) Voom, DTV, all the other companies hire install companies with the expectation that they WILL do a good curtious and "Profesional" job. The idea being an installer company will do the job the best (obviously sometimes an erronius assuption)
2) The customers expect the same & as thats what Voom and others promise the customer has every right to. It isnt the customers Job to research and find out who does good work or anything that was the Job of Voom and other companies when they hire installer groups. The customers Job is to be there when installer shows, make access avail for where the installer needs to go and basically stay out of his way so he CAN do his job.
3) Now the rub - Unfortunatly there are many installers out there with what comes across as Dragons mentality of "Just do enough to get by". This doesnt mean all installers are bad, some are really exceptional and take pride in their work, but others are just Greedy/lazy in wanting 2x the money for 1/2 a**ed service. To these sorts of installers there is no such thing as priding self in quality of their work its all about the ducets, no matter if it makes install inc, Voom or any other comp look bad as long as they get paid.
I've worked both retail and service based jobs in my limited lifetime but in every one of them I felt it was my job or duty to do the best I could for each person I delt with & prided myself in the fact that I did so.
Finally, TG Dragon wasnt MY installer cause I'd of been on the phone in no time demanding he be removed and a Proffesional that has pride in their work be sent. My installer wasnt perfect but still damned site better than how D sounds to be. Things mine didnt do that I just coped with since he was here for quite some times is Not fastening the cables to the wall as they run down from roof, Failing to program or explain the changes with the new remote as far as controlling TV/VCR (took me 2 days of calling several places to find out about the mute button step) Not thinking of trying our already installed OTA ant, which actually brings in more OTA channels in HD than what was installed. He still did make the effort tho to have all three boxes running right and even gave me his direct phone number in case I needed to call him later. So even tho he didnt do a "Perfect" job he made the effort which means alot to a customer in this day of "just get by" shoddy work.
1) Voom, DTV, all the other companies hire install companies with the expectation that they WILL do a good curtious and "Profesional" job. The idea being an installer company will do the job the best (obviously sometimes an erronius assuption)
2) The customers expect the same & as thats what Voom and others promise the customer has every right to. It isnt the customers Job to research and find out who does good work or anything that was the Job of Voom and other companies when they hire installer groups. The customers Job is to be there when installer shows, make access avail for where the installer needs to go and basically stay out of his way so he CAN do his job.
3) Now the rub - Unfortunatly there are many installers out there with what comes across as Dragons mentality of "Just do enough to get by". This doesnt mean all installers are bad, some are really exceptional and take pride in their work, but others are just Greedy/lazy in wanting 2x the money for 1/2 a**ed service. To these sorts of installers there is no such thing as priding self in quality of their work its all about the ducets, no matter if it makes install inc, Voom or any other comp look bad as long as they get paid.
I've worked both retail and service based jobs in my limited lifetime but in every one of them I felt it was my job or duty to do the best I could for each person I delt with & prided myself in the fact that I did so.
Finally, TG Dragon wasnt MY installer cause I'd of been on the phone in no time demanding he be removed and a Proffesional that has pride in their work be sent. My installer wasnt perfect but still damned site better than how D sounds to be. Things mine didnt do that I just coped with since he was here for quite some times is Not fastening the cables to the wall as they run down from roof, Failing to program or explain the changes with the new remote as far as controlling TV/VCR (took me 2 days of calling several places to find out about the mute button step) Not thinking of trying our already installed OTA ant, which actually brings in more OTA channels in HD than what was installed. He still did make the effort tho to have all three boxes running right and even gave me his direct phone number in case I needed to call him later. So even tho he didnt do a "Perfect" job he made the effort which means alot to a customer in this day of "just get by" shoddy work.
"lobstah,
thanks for the partial back-up , as to the voom cx acting like they want more and to be treated "special" , sweet mother of god man , read these posts on this and other sites, yes they do!!!"
I'm not quite sure how you interpreted my post as "partial back-up". What I said was that they want a professional job done.
I also said that if you don't think VOOM pays you enough money to do the install, don't bitch to ME about it, because I didn't hire you.
This is the biggest reason that VOOM should get out of the installation business. They should A) ship the equipment to the homeowner, and B) provide a customer with a list of "qualified" installers in their area that they can hire to do the install if they'd like. That gets VOOM out of the picture, OTHER than being able to remove an installation company that has had X number of negative comments back to VOOM.
Lob
thanks for the partial back-up , as to the voom cx acting like they want more and to be treated "special" , sweet mother of god man , read these posts on this and other sites, yes they do!!!"
I'm not quite sure how you interpreted my post as "partial back-up". What I said was that they want a professional job done.
I also said that if you don't think VOOM pays you enough money to do the install, don't bitch to ME about it, because I didn't hire you.
This is the biggest reason that VOOM should get out of the installation business. They should A) ship the equipment to the homeowner, and B) provide a customer with a list of "qualified" installers in their area that they can hire to do the install if they'd like. That gets VOOM out of the picture, OTHER than being able to remove an installation company that has had X number of negative comments back to VOOM.
Lob
Funny...they did the same thing for me.
But what that REALLY meant was that someone would come out and "evaluate" my site to determine if I needed an upgrade.
They blew off the first appointment, showed up for the second one and "evaluated" me. They said yes...called VOOM for authorization, called their office to schedule us for the antenna install two days later, and blew that off too. No call, no nothing.
So the bright side is, you've GOT to get better service than that
And Tyork?...No call from anyone. Not voom, not the installer, no Installs, Inc.
Nada...zip, nutting.
Lob
But what that REALLY meant was that someone would come out and "evaluate" my site to determine if I needed an upgrade.
They blew off the first appointment, showed up for the second one and "evaluated" me. They said yes...called VOOM for authorization, called their office to schedule us for the antenna install two days later, and blew that off too. No call, no nothing.
So the bright side is, you've GOT to get better service than that
And Tyork?...No call from anyone. Not voom, not the installer, no Installs, Inc.
Nada...zip, nutting.
Lob
Lobstah said:Funny...they did the same thing for me.
But what that REALLY meant was that someone would come out and "evaluate" my site to determine if I needed an upgrade.
They blew off the first appointment, showed up for the second one and "evaluated" me. They said yes...called VOOM for authorization, called their office to schedule us for the antenna install two days later, and blew that off too. No call, no nothing.
So the bright side is, you've GOT to get better service than that
And Tyork?...No call from anyone. Not voom, not the installer, no Installs, Inc.
Nada...zip, nutting.
Lob
i am trying to get ahold of the Regional Manager right now.
tyork
Lobstah said:Funny...they did the same thing for me.
But what that REALLY meant was that someone would come out and "evaluate" my site to determine if I needed an upgrade.
They blew off the first appointment, showed up for the second one and "evaluated" me. They said yes...called VOOM for authorization, called their office to schedule us for the antenna install two days later, and blew that off too. No call, no nothing.
So the bright side is, you've GOT to get better service than that
And Tyork?...No call from anyone. Not voom, not the installer, no Installs, Inc.
Nada...zip, nutting.
Lob
Sorry to hear you had problems. I have an extremely reliable installer due to the help I found through T and others. He called today and we talked for half an hour on options and we are set for Friday to get the new antenna up.
