THIS is why I will NEVER side with MLB owners....

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What's amazing is that a small market team like the Twins can get it right and compete every year, while other teams either flounder annually (Pirates, Royals, etc.) or are able to compete occasionally because of good scouting (Marlins, Athletics, etc.), but have to continually sell off their assets.

But the Twins somehow manage to be competitive year after year. :up


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And this is another thing that is upsetting..WHY does the Twin not share HOW they do this? Are they THAT much more superstiticious that someone will steal their game plan?:confused:
 

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What's amazing is that a small market team like the Twins can get it right and compete every year, while other teams either flounder annually (Pirates, Royals, etc.) or are able to compete occasionally because of good scouting (Marlins, Athletics, etc.), but have to continually sell off their assets.

But the Twins somehow manage to be competitive year after year. :up


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The Twins are a strange exception to the rule. Name another mid-market team that is able to compete each and every year.
 

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And this is another thing that is upsetting..WHY does the Twin not share HOW they do this? Are they THAT much more superstiticious that someone will steal their game plan?:confused:

Yeah! And Bill Belicheck needs so share his blueprint for how he sheds his better, high-salaried players and brings in cheaper replacements and still has a very good team year after year! Come out from under the hoodie Bill and tell us how you do it! Everyone wants to know!

Whadd'ya afraid someone else will try to do the same thing? ;)


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The Twins are a strange exception to the rule. Name another mid-market team that is able to compete each and every year.

That's my point about the Twins being amazing! They've even had some bad luck like injuries to Liriano and Morneau that would cripple other teams, but they keep right on chugging.

It's not strange. It's called running a successful baseball franchise. ;)


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And this is another thing that is upsetting..WHY does the Twin not share HOW they do this? Are they THAT much more superstiticious that someone will steal their game plan?:confused:
I don't think they're hiding anything. Looks like shrewd drafting and excellent management from where I'm sitting...
 

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Yeah! And Bill Belicheck needs so share his blueprint for how he sheds his better, high-salaried players and brings in cheaper replacements and still has a very good team year after year! Come out from under the hoodie Bill and tell us how you do it! Everyone wants to know!

Whadd'ya afraid someone else will try to do the same thing? ;)


Sandra

EVERY single professional league is a copy cat league. Once a formula works...every single organization scrambles to see how they did it.
 

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EVERY single professional league is a copy cat league. Once a formula works...every single organization scrambles to see how they did it.

...and yet NO small market team has come CLOSE to emulating what the Twins have done year after year after year. ;)


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...Yep...and as long as they keep that to themselves...which don't get me wrong, I would not tell anyone either....this will continue among the other teams.

As Cosmo said, it's no secret. Good drafting, solid asset management, and good baseball decisions. Other teams try that to, but the Twins are just better at it. ;)


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EVERY single professional league is a copy cat league. Once a formula works...every single organization scrambles to see how they did it.
I think you're thinking more about on the field/court/rink strategies than franchise business decisions.

I didn't see any other teams rush to spend hundreds of millions in free agency after the Yankees won it all last year.
 

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I think you're thinking more about on the field/court/rink strategies than franchise business decisions.

I didn't see any other teams rush to spend hundreds of millions in free agency after the Yankees won it all last year.

I mean Cosmo, no one has the revenue coming in from their TV contracts like the Yankees do. So that is not gonna happen. If you think about it, alot of these teams did not disclose everything did a sound business decision on THEIR end because they were thinking about their own bottom line. Sort of...LOL!
 

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I think you're thinking more about on the field/court/rink strategies than franchise business decisions.

I didn't see any other teams rush to spend hundreds of millions in free agency after the Yankees won it all last year.

Exactly. Quite simply, the Twins scout, draft and develop players better than most teams in baseball. It's not a secret, it's how good teams have always been built, and it's all the more important when there is limited revenue. Every team tries to do that, but most cannot do it nearly as successfully as the Twins do it. ;)


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I always point to the Twins and A's as the two small market franchises that get it right. The Marlins to a lesser extent with two championships, but they sold off all their good players (especially after 1997).

The Reds are that way now under their new ownership.
 

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I always point to the Twins and A's as the two small market franchises that get it right. The Marlins to a lesser extent with two championships, but they sold off all their good players (especially after 1997).

Well...1997 for the Marlins was weird because of Wayne Huizenga having to many cookie jars to stick his hands in. During that time, he owned every team in town with the exception of the HEAT(Marlins, Dolphins, Pathners) not to mention Blockbuster and Autonation. That was not drowning in debt, he had the Empire State building chained to his leg trying to swim the Atlantic Ocean.
 

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Well...1997 for the Marlins was weird because of Wayne Huizenga having to many cookie jars to stick his hands in. During that time, he owned every team in town with the exception of the HEAT(Marlins, Dolphins, Pathners) not to mention Blockbuster and Autonation. That was not drowning in debt, he had the Empire State building chained to his leg trying to swim the Atlantic Ocean.

Don't even start talking to me about NINETEEN NINETY SEVEN!!! :mad:
 

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Much ado about nothing.

Though I do agree with dropping the hammer on the leaker in this case.

There isn't going to be a salary Cap, nor floor.

The biggest thing this will cause will be the looming showdown on how revenues from large market teams are redistributed among the small market teams.

Yankees, Red sox Mets, Phillies should be pissed, Marlins Pirates Royals and the likes should be ashamed. Most every other team falls in the middle.

The battle at the outset of bargaining for the New Labor Contract will be Owner vs Owner, Not Owners vs Players Association.

Biggest thing Owners need to accomplish with the Player's Association will be a Worldwide slotted draft.

No more Latin Free Agents, No more Japanese players signed without being drafted. No more holdouts for Strasburg, Harper and the likes right up till 11.59PM signing deadline day.

No more record Signing bonuses, Slotted Worldwide Draft addresses all this.
 
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