Nebraska bolting for Big Ten, Colorado for Pac-10

[Will94]

One of the local sportswriters is reporting that A&M is interested in the SEC but Texas has no interest. According to him, one of two things is going to happen.

1. The SEC adds A&M and OU to the SEC West. Auburn and Alabama move to the SEC East. The Big Ten adds Texas and Notre Dame for a total of 14 teams.

2. The Big 12 South minus Baylor join the Pac 10.

He says that A&M would like a week or so to explore their options but realize that they don't have that kind of time. He says that it's about 60%/40% that the Pac 10 option happens.

Also, Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe has called several non-Big 12 athletic directors and told them that the Big 12 doesn't plan to dissolve and that they have contracts for a BCS bid and seven bowl tie ins.[FONT=&quot][/FONT]

 

[SandraC]

OK, let's do this:

Pac 10
Arizona
Arizona St
Oregon
Oregon St
USC
UCLA
California
Stanford
Washington
Washington St
Texas
Texas Tech
Texas A&M
Colorado
Oklahoma
Oklahoma St

Big Ten
Illinois
Iowa
Michigan
Michigan St
Ohio St
Penn St
Minnesota
Purdue
Wisconsin
Notre Dame
Missouri
Nebraska
Rutgers
Syracuse
Boise St
Air Force

SEC
Alabama
Auburn
Florida
LSU
Mississippi
Mississippi St
Tennessee
Georgia
Arkansas
South Carolina
Kentucky
TCU
Utah
BYU
Houston
SMU

Eastern
Connecticut
Virginia
Virginia Tech
West Virginia
Pittsburgh
Georgia Tech
Miami
Clemson
Florida State
North Carolina
North Carolina St
Boston College
East Carolina
Louisville
Army
Navy

You can certainly quibble with some of the selections, it's just a preliminary draft. But the important thing is...

All leads to the final four!


Sandra

 

[toto]

The fat lady ain't singing yet. Kansas and another School are number crunching a Big12 -2 10 team conference. There is strong evidence that revenue is higher per team than it is currently. No conference championship game and all play all every year. The new deadline is Tuesday for decisions.

 

[The Insider]

The entire state shouts "Noooooooooooooooooooooo". We all want to bring them down, not make them even stronger.

Then join the conference if you want to bring them down

 

[kevink]

Well, this all brought up the issue of the Big Ten network for me. I'm a Nebraska native and fan, living in Oklahoma. I had just assumed that the Big Ten network was available on my Dish. I just hadn't cared to look for it, since Nebraska was Big 12

Couldn't find it. Scrolled through the guide several times.

But Dish had messed things up before, like BBCA HD, and I had to call to have it enabled even though it was in my plan. The CSR was clueless, so I felt I had to have a sports plan added, but wasn't sure.

Another thread here says, yes, I will have to pay extra. Guess I'll have to pay extra for ESPN Gameplan too, so I can get regional ABC coverage. ABC will probably be showing a lot of Pac 16 games, concentrating on Texas and Oklahoma.

So this will be more expensive for me

 

[kevink]

Here's what I think will happen to the Big-12.

Nebraska: Big-10

Texas/A&M/Oklahoma/Ok. State/Texas Tech/Colorado: PAC-10

Baylor/Kansas St.: WAC

Kansas/Missouri: MAC

Iowa St.: Conference USA

I think that, unless Kansas can get into a BCS league (Big East, if it survives?), they will be in the same conference as Kansas State. And speculation I'm reading is that the MWC is more likely for some of the Big 12 schools.

 

[Will94]

Guess I'll have to pay extra for ESPN Gameplan too, so I can get regional ABC coverage.

ESPN Gameplan isn't in HD, and the picture is rotten. I have had it every year since 1995, and I am going to drop it this fall. If you get espn3, you can see all of the games in GamePlan streamed for free.

 

[osu1991]

The fat lady ain't singing yet. Kansas and another School are number crunching a Big12 -2 10 team conference. There is strong evidence that revenue is higher per team than it is currently. No conference championship game and all play all every year. The new deadline is Tuesday for decisions.

As was said earlier the Big 8 was a very successful league without Texas. I think the Big 12 schools are going to be giving up too much control moving West or East. I think if they want to pick up somebody, then Utah and BYU would be good for the SLC tv market. Heck they should pursue Notre Dame and their NBC contract too. I am just not of fan of these proposed super conferences. A balance needs to be struck and I think 10-12 is the right balance

 

[Will94]

Very little new to report today except that SEC commissioner Michael Slive is in College Station.

I would preferred to have seen Texas, A&M, OU, and OSU all go to the SEC and Bama and Auburn go to the East. However, since every one of those other teams is going to the Pac 10, I think that it's what we need to do as well. I know that it would look like we were just following Texas, but really we would be following *everyone*.

It would be ridiculous to be in a conference and not have another team from Texas in it. The nearest opponent would be LSU at a 6+ hour drive away.

 

[osu1991]

Pac 10 commissioner was in Norman this afternoon. OSU President was in on that meeting also

OU Regents meet Wednesday. OSU Regents have till Monday to file notice if they want to meet earlier than scheduled, i.e. Wednesday.

 

[Greg Bimson]

I started thinking about this off-the-cuff, and then realized that this may actually work...

Many basketball fans loved to see the advent of the nine-team conference. It provided a sixteen-game home-and-away schedule. Couple that with the fact it provides eight conference games for football, and you have the ingredients to promote a very healthy conference.

Of course, that changed with the advent of the 12-team conference, to promote a championship game.

I am now thinking some may be thinking too small. I think some of these conferences would be wise to make theirs an 18-team conference, segregated as two nine-team divisions that do not play each other at all in either football or basketball until a title is required, just like the ACC through the 1990's.

PS: Sandra,
You left out one university that has the domain over the 8th and 23rd largest media markets in the country, which has been to a BCS bowl game and won a basketball NC in the past decade. Although most of these moves have been about TV money and the University of Maryland has been stinking out the Byrd the past few years, there is still no reason to move them out of the major conferences.

 

[SandraC]

I started thinking about this off-the-cuff, and then realized that this may actually work...

Many basketball fans loved to see the advent of the nine-team conference. It provided a sixteen-game home-and-away schedule. Couple that with the fact it provides eight conference games for football, and you have the ingredients to promote a very healthy conference.

Of course, that changed with the advent of the 12-team conference, to promote a championship game.

I am now thinking some may be thinking too small. I think some of these conferences would be wise to make theirs an 18-team conference, segregated as two nine-team divisions that do not play each other at all in either football or basketball until a title is required, just like the ACC through the 1990's.

PS: Sandra,
You left out one university that has the domain over the 8th and 23rd largest media markets in the country, which has been to a BCS bowl game and won a basketball NC in the past decade. Although most of these moves have been about TV money and the University of Maryland has been stinking out the Byrd the past few years, there is still no reason to move them out of the major conferences.

As I said, you can quibble with many of my selections. It was more about the point of four super conferences getting together to crown a national champion.

PS I would replace Kentucky with Maryland, but Ramy would close the thread so Kentucky stays.


Sandra

 

[boomer69]

OK, let's do this:


Big Ten
Illinois
Iowa
Michigan
Michigan St
Ohio St
Penn St
Minnesota
Purdue
Wisconsin
Notre Dame
Missouri
Nebraska
Rutgers
Syracuse
Boise St
Air Force


You can certainly quibble with some of the selections, it's just a preliminary draft. But the important thing is...

All leads to the final four!


Sandra

You also left out Indiana out of the Big Ten!!!............

 

[JAG72]

You also left out Indiana out of the Big Ten!!!............

Is that really a loss?

 

[boomer69]

Is that really a loss?

Maybe not for football, but Tom Creen promised to get us back to the glory days soon!!!......

 

[SandraC]

Maybe not for football, but Tom Creen promised to get us back to the glory days soon!!!......

This is all about football...


Sandra

 

[osu1991]

Looks like Big 12 will remain with 10 teams now as OU and Texas are staying now.

 

[BlackHitachi]

Looks like Big 12 will remain with 10 teams now as OU and Texas are staying now.

DANG IT!!!!:rant::rant::rant:

 

[Jimbo]

Looks like Big 12 will remain with 10 teams now as OU and Texas are staying now.

Still up for debate, or is it official ?

Saw this posted at ESPN

[ame="http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5286672"]Texas, Oklahoma, Texas A&M, Oklahoma State stay put in Big 12 Conference - ESPN[/ame]

After reading this, it does look like it's official.

Now, what does that do to the Pac 10, the conference that was a day ago moving to 16 teams, is now settling for 10,11,12 ?

Why is it that they seem to think that they need 12 teams for a Conference Championship game ?

Whats wrong with a 10 team CCG ?

Personally, I'm glad to see it stay the way it was.

 

[atl14dat]

Still up for debate, or is it official ?

Saw this posted at ESPN

Texas, Oklahoma, Texas A&M, Oklahoma State stay put in Big 12 Conference - ESPN

After reading this, it does look like it's official.

Now, what does that do to the Pac 10, the conference that was a day ago moving to 16 teams, is now settling for 10,11,12 ?

Why is it that they seem to think that they need 12 teams for a Conference Championship game ?

Whats wrong with a 10 team CCG ?

Personally, I'm glad to see it stay the way it was.

Conferences are forbidden to have Conference Championship games unless they have a minimum of twelve teams and feature a conference split into Two divisons.

The new Big 12 with it's 10 teams can not hold a CCG.

If they were smart they would extend offers to TCU and SMU to join.

Divisons can be split into the South Divison featuring all 6 teams from the State of Texas.

Oklahoma would go into the North Divison.

The one good thing though about 10 team Conferences is the ability to play 9 Conference games and play all your conference brethern.