The YouTube TV Thread

MrMars · Mar 6, 2020

Zookster said:
As if I didn't already hate the Yankees enough, but now they are leveraging their clout to blackout nationally televised Yankee games on YTTV? I can't believe MLB would allow a marquee franchise to never appear on TV screens nationwide for this season and however many more to come on a service that has at least 2 million customers and continues to grow.

As far as wanting to pay a lower rate than other providers, I would assume YTTV was trying to factor in customer data and their ability to sell targeted advertising into the deal to get the rate down.

They are referring to the "YouTube Game of the week" that is in the 2nd half of the season. I did not think teams could opt out of that as I doubt many teams want to lose games from their RSNs I am curious what ends up happening there.

Yankees cannot do anything about nationally televised games on FOX/FS1/ESPN/TBS

The WPIX games they may/may not be able to do anything, they would have to yank the streaming rights away from WPIX which may not be possible if a contract is already signed. Even if they can that would effect every streaming service not just YouTube TV so I really doubt they go that route.

osu1991 · Mar 6, 2020

MrMars said:
They are referring to the "YouTube Game of the week" that is in the 2nd half of the season. I did not think teams could opt out of that as I doubt many teams want to lose games from their RSNs I am curious what ends up happening there.

Yankees cannot do anything about nationally televised games on FOX/FS1/ESPN/TBS

The WPIX games they may/may not be able to do anything, they would have to yank the streaming rights away from WPIX which may not be possible if a contract is already signed. Even if they can that would effect every streaming service not just YouTube TV so I really doubt they go that route.

The WPIX games have already been announced to be streaming on Amazon for Prime subs in the NY coverage area.

MrMars · Mar 6, 2020

osu1991 said:
The WPIX games have already been announced to be streaming on Amazon for Prime subs in the NY coverage area.

That is also a option, but was referring to WPIX on YouTubeTV in case someone does not have Prime. Either way there is a decent amount of Yankee games on YouTubeTV even without YES.

rapidturtle · Mar 6, 2020

This is awesome. Cord cutting is supposed to save money. If they give into the RSN's like cable and Directv did, we will be paying those high rates again. It's time to stand up to some of these damn sports teams. Don't forget, they need us to survive.

Bilbo1 · Mar 6, 2020

MrMars said:
Yankees cannot do anything about nationally televised games on FOX/FS1/ESPN/TBS

I don't know... Depends on the rights. The Yankees may control who has the rights to stream the game even though it's broadcast nationally. My local MLS team has an agreement with a local OTA station to broadcast the game, and you can get the game on that channel via cable, sat, and OTA. The local streaming rights went to another company, so the game is blacked out on the channel on YTTV and other streamers that carry the OTA channel.

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rdale · Mar 6, 2020

MrMars said:
The WPIX games they may/may not be able to do anything, they would have to yank the streaming rights away from WPIX which may not be possible if a contract is already signed. Even if they can that would effect every streaming service not just YouTube TV so I really doubt they go that route.

WPIX isn’t available on YTTV so that’s not really a factor.

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comfortably_numb · Mar 6, 2020

rdale said:
WPIX isn’t available on YTTV so that’s not really a factor

It is if you live in New York.

comfortably_numb · Mar 6, 2020

Well, I take that back. Looks like it isn't-

Zookster · Mar 6, 2020

comfortably_numb said:
Well, I take that back. Looks like it isn't-

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With that many locals on YTTV, NY market people have no right to complain about losing an RSN. I get roughly half that number in San Diego (though there are certainly more available OTA).

NYDutch · Mar 6, 2020

comfortably_numb said:
Well, I take that back. Looks like it isn't-

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Locast carries it...

docdaddy · Mar 6, 2020

When I go to watch my networks/locals and also local RSN on YTTV, it requires me to allow location checking. If I am out of town, does this mean I can't get my local news, sports, networks, RSN?

Second question: I wanted to just put the TV on a channel and watch the channel live all evening (three shows in a row I like) so I went to the "live" to get the guide, clicked on the program on the network I wanted to watch, but at the end of the show it stopped rather than just keep watching the channel. Am I missing something or does it not let you just tune to a network and leave it there?

rdale · Mar 6, 2020

You get 30 days, so if you are out of town you will get the locals in that town but still the RSN from home.

EVERY time you login from home, you extend your 30 days.

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docdaddy · Mar 6, 2020

rdale said:
You get 30 days, so if you are out of town you will get the locals in that town but still the RSN from home.

EVERY time you login from home, you extend your 30 days.

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Ah, so if I read you right, I set my locals right before I leave home, I'll still get them for 30 days after I leave town? Cool.

And any answers on the second question?

Bobby · Mar 6, 2020

comfortably_numb said:
Well, I take that back. Looks like it isn't-

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The CW is WPIX so it is, indeed, there.

comfortably_numb · Mar 6, 2020

Bobby said:
The CW is WPIX so it is, indeed, there.

Bobby you're the man!

cpalmer2k · Mar 6, 2020

Be careful with that... last I checked WPIX wasn't live. That "The CW" is misleading, it also can mean their "national" on demand feed of CW programming. There isn't a station logo, so I'd bet WPIX is still missing.

Also, can anybody "confirm" that local behavior has changed? I subscribed to YouTube TV when it first came out. Anytime I went outside my home area (like when I went to work) it put me in a different market and only allowed me to stream that market's channels live. I could still set things to record on my "home" network stations, but could only watch those after the programs ended.

Does it still behave that way, or does it act differently now? I've heard if you use Apple TV, Fire TV, etc it always gives you the locals you are signed up for but if you use an iPad or Mobile Device with location it gives you locals from where you physically are. That would be a change from the way it was when I signed up before.

Zookster · Mar 7, 2020

docdaddy said:
Second question: I wanted to just put the TV on a channel and watch the channel live all evening (three shows in a row I like) so I went to the "live" to get the guide, clicked on the program on the network I wanted to watch, but at the end of the show it stopped rather than just keep watching the channel. Am I missing something or does it not let you just tune to a network and leave it there?

Like some other streaming services do to save data, YouTube TV automatically shuts off after 4 hours of inactivity. If that wasn't the case in this instance, it might be because you are recording whatever show you had selected in your guide, so it acted as if you had reached the end of a recording rather than watching live TV from one show to the next.

docdaddy · Mar 7, 2020

I was recording them because they are shows I follow, but I wanted to just have them play as if I'd tuned into that channel.

rdale · Mar 7, 2020

Bobby said:
The CW is WPIX so it is, indeed, there.

But it is the national feed, not local, so the Yankees games won’t be there.

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rdale · Mar 7, 2020

docdaddy said:
Ah, so if I read you right, I set my locals right before I leave home, I'll still get them for 30 days after I leave town?

Your RSN - yes. Your locals - no. You’ll get recordings, but your local live networks will be replaced by live locals from where you are.

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