Ravens cut Ray Rice
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You're probably right but the NFL should be embarrassed by the way they handled this. I applaud TMZ for getting this out there and showing everyone just how bad this was. If the NFL would have done their job correctly it wouldn't have been necessary but since they basically did nothing it had to get out there.
I was shocked to see some people on this site defend Rice when this news first broke a few months ago. He is a freak of nature NFL athlete who punched a woman in the face and some people were on board with his self defense excuse. That would be like an average man walking into a playground and punching a 1st grader. After seeing the video it's even more clear that this was not self defense and people are still defending him here.
As far as I'm concerned, Ray Rice is a piece of trash. The discussion of how many games he should miss should have never happened because he should have been in jail.
While this case was clearly mishandled by all involved, I think the bulk of the blame for this fiasco lies with the prosecutor's office in New Jersey.
It's clear that all parties had access to the "TMZ video". Since Rice was severely undercharged by the prosecutor, the NFL's hands were tied when it came to determining their punishment. How could the NFL drop the hammer on Rice when the state was giving him a slap on the wrist??
I feel bad for John Harbaugh. No Ravens management or ownership reps faced the media yesterday to explain their decision. Instead, they send out the head coach....
It's clear that all parties had access to the "TMZ video". Since Rice was severely undercharged by the prosecutor, the NFL's hands were tied when it came to determining their punishment. How could the NFL drop the hammer on Rice when the state was giving him a slap on the wrist??
I feel bad for John Harbaugh. No Ravens management or ownership reps faced the media yesterday to explain their decision. Instead, they send out the head coach....
And here comes the insults... yeah even my grandmother sounds tough behind a keyboard.
A unions mandate is to protect its member....and not be concerned w/ perceived public opinions/relations or whatever.
Stories have surface that the NFL DID see the entire video before banning Rice 2 games ie- Punishment served and rendered.
Video comes out, upsetting the masses then the NFL goes back and "re-punishes" Rice to satisfy social pressure?
If you recall, days following the Rice suspension, Goodell and company released the new suspension guidelines regarding domestic violence (6 games then a full ban). Goodell didnt even follow his own rules made up last week.... so if you really think the NFLPA wont be filing a grievance here....(insert your own insult here).
Cheers, K
not when that member flat out lied in failing to disclose certain facts.And here comes the insults... yeah even my grandmother sounds tough behind a keyboard.
A unions mandate is to protect its member....and not be concerned w/ perceived public opinions/relations or whatever.
Stories have surface that the NFL DID see the entire video before banning Rice 2 games ie- Punishment served and rendered.
Video comes out, upsetting the masses then the NFL goes back and "re-punishes" Rice to satisfy social pressure?
If you recall, days following the Rice suspension, Goodell and company released the new suspension guidelines regarding domestic violence (6 games then a full ban). Goodell didnt even follow his own rules made up last week.... so if you really think the NFLPA wont be filing a grievance here....(insert your own insult here).
Cheers, K
Same here... what he did was inexcusable. However, my beef if with the NFL who punished him after hearing/seeing the evidence then re-punishing him (beyond their own new guidelines) when society has a cow...
Bucking to public pressure seems to be a trend lately that goes far beyond football.
NFL saw the video... dont know how he couldve "lied" about it.
"oh sorry mr commissioner, we were just filming a segment of jackass" ?
it boils down to dollars, the NFL is not going cause harm or damage its "brand" in PR matters.
Agreed that the prosecutor severely screwed this up. I don't agree with the rest of it so much. Employers are free to hold their employees to higher standards than the law does. Just because the police didn't throw him in jail like they should have it doesn't mean that they couldn't have kicked him out of the league.
This is a fan supported business. Public pressure is pretty much the most important thing to them. If the fans no longer support the NFL they lose money and they aren't going to face that over a low life like Ray Rice.
now you are defending domestic violence and the people and organizations that covered it up?See post #36
thanks for showing your true colors.
Granted... I understand why the NFL did it, dont agree with it..however, the NFLPA though will have their say in a few days.
I agree the NFL could have thrown the book at Rice, but they would have had to justify why the strong punishment was warranted when the state was being lenient.
The NFLPA will not touch this with a 10 foot pole.
The players salaries are tied to revenue, 40% of NFL fans are women. They're not not going to tie themselves to Rice at the risk of losing revenue.
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After initially viewing the full video way back when, the NFL shouldve booted Rice on the spot. Seems like their trying to correct their initial mistake.
If not tomorrow, then next week but at one point the NFLPA will get involved. Probably going to wait for the heat to die down first. Besides, its Rice's call.. if he says GO, the NFLPA will get involved.
go do some reading on the personal conduct policy
Ray has to wait at least 11 months before he can file an appeal
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/21598/nfl-personal-conduct-policy
Reinstatement:
Any person suspended indefinitely or for at least one year may seek reinstatement beginning one month prior to the one-year anniversary of the suspension. As part of his consideration of the application for reinstatement from a player, the Commissioner will seek the views of the NFLPA, Player Advisory Council, and may consult medical, law enforcement, and other relevant professionals.
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